Comments on: American Apparel Now Selling…Dr. Bronner’s Soaps? http://www.elephantjournal.com/2008/08/american-apparel-now-sellingdr-bronners-soaps/ daily blog, videos, e-newsletter & magazine on yoga + organics + green living + non-new agey spirituality + ecofashion + conscious consumerism=it's about the mindful life. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:37:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: health panama http://www.elephantjournal.com/2008/08/american-apparel-now-sellingdr-bronners-soaps/comment-page-1/#comment-743859 health panama Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:40:26 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/?p=1628#comment-743859 Very good to see somebody showing the essentials.You Set up a solid base! Very good to see somebody showing the essentials.You Set up a solid base!

]]> By: Denyse Cain http://www.elephantjournal.com/2008/08/american-apparel-now-sellingdr-bronners-soaps/comment-page-1/#comment-396811 Denyse Cain Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:45:56 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/?p=1628#comment-396811 Thanks for posting good topic. I was enjoy it then have a nice day Thanks for posting good topic. I was enjoy it then have a nice day

]]> By: Rumors just Rumors: American Apparel going out of business? | elephant journal http://www.elephantjournal.com/2008/08/american-apparel-now-sellingdr-bronners-soaps/comment-page-1/#comment-43121 Rumors just Rumors: American Apparel going out of business? | elephant journal Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:03:30 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/?p=1628#comment-43121 [...] …is one of elephant’s favorite companies. Why? They’ve proven to the business world that one can be hugely profitable while being Made in the USA (unlike most of our other favorite companies), offering creat cuts and classic styles in sometimes-organic cotton, offering free ESL classes to their fair-wage-paid workers, running their downtown LA factory in a green manner, offering some non-toxic, affordable options, promoting gay equality (which too few companies do so publicly), featuring un-made up models, and running their stores in an out-of-the-box manner. [...] [...] …is one of elephant’s favorite companies. Why? They’ve proven to the business world that one can be hugely profitable while being Made in the USA (unlike most of our other favorite companies), offering creat cuts and classic styles in sometimes-organic cotton, offering free ESL classes to their fair-wage-paid workers, running their downtown LA factory in a green manner, offering some non-toxic, affordable options, promoting gay equality (which too few companies do so publicly), featuring un-made up models, and running their stores in an out-of-the-box manner. [...]

]]> By: American Apparel goes all the way (and hires a Porn Star). | elephant journal http://www.elephantjournal.com/2008/08/american-apparel-now-sellingdr-bronners-soaps/comment-page-1/#comment-28502 American Apparel goes all the way (and hires a Porn Star). | elephant journal Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:52:05 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/?p=1628#comment-28502 [...] labor, vertical integration, affordable, relatively green, thoroughly cool, elegant, progressive, out-of-the-box thinkers. They don’t do sweatshops. They’re outspoken advocates of gay [...] [...] labor, vertical integration, affordable, relatively green, thoroughly cool, elegant, progressive, out-of-the-box thinkers. They don’t do sweatshops. They’re outspoken advocates of gay [...]

]]> By: Old-school hipsters vs. neo-Hipsters; community independent businesses vs. progressive chain store…it’s The Mission vs. American Apparel. | elephant journal http://www.elephantjournal.com/2008/08/american-apparel-now-sellingdr-bronners-soaps/comment-page-1/#comment-14277 Old-school hipsters vs. neo-Hipsters; community independent businesses vs. progressive chain store…it’s The Mission vs. American Apparel. | elephant journal Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:59:56 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/?p=1628#comment-14277 [...] Apparel also goes on to say that “at the end of the day if the community doesn’t want us there, [...] [...] Apparel also goes on to say that “at the end of the day if the community doesn’t want us there, [...]

]]> By: Hipster Runoff and the Search for Authenticity on the Web. | elephant journal http://www.elephantjournal.com/2008/08/american-apparel-now-sellingdr-bronners-soaps/comment-page-1/#comment-13331 Hipster Runoff and the Search for Authenticity on the Web. | elephant journal Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:23:21 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/?p=1628#comment-13331 [...] have all been in line at a cafe/American Apparel/AmCo show and seen these AltPeople with their brightly colored tee shirt & glasses combo and [...] [...] have all been in line at a cafe/American Apparel/AmCo show and seen these AltPeople with their brightly colored tee shirt & glasses combo and [...]

]]> By: American Apparel Unisex Ear Muffs. | elephant journal http://www.elephantjournal.com/2008/08/american-apparel-now-sellingdr-bronners-soaps/comment-page-1/#comment-11707 American Apparel Unisex Ear Muffs. | elephant journal Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:11:01 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/?p=1628#comment-11707 [...] written in the past about the things I love about American Apparel. Waylon has too, highlighting their fair labor [...] [...] written in the past about the things I love about American Apparel. Waylon has too, highlighting their fair labor [...]

]]> By: John http://www.elephantjournal.com/2008/08/american-apparel-now-sellingdr-bronners-soaps/comment-page-1/#comment-1507 John Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:54:50 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/?p=1628#comment-1507 Indeed, it is rough to live in a world where being judged by appearance and physical attributes seems to be the dominant way. We are programmed, as are many other animals, to seek mates based on physical appearance, and most animals have a pecking order, some displaying brutality that rivals our own. The only option I can see is to accept it, and if you want to change it then you must work within your own life to create relationships that aren't based on outward appearance (and what does "appearance" really mean?) Rigorous self-examination is necessary- Can you really say you aren't initially attracted to people based upon outward appearances? If so, can you say you choose a partner without heavily considering physical beauty, even if it is your definition of beauty? I can't. As a male I have come to terms with this long ago. I weigh about 135, and you could have painted a bullseye on my head because believe me I have been a nonstop target of physically bigger guys my whole life. I have gotten my ass kicked for no good reason many times, and have been harassed in many other ways over the years. For me it's just reality. It's not some abstract thing, it's real- some people will kill you for what you look like. Now with all that said, I'm a white male. I've been the target of racism, having been attacked my members of other races twice, both times I would call them definite hate crimes, one time they were out to kill me- kicked in the head so many times I couldn't count. I can only imagine how some darker skinned people have been oppressed. So, it's not about man/woman, black/white. What *is* it about? And what can we do? Thanks for opening an interesting dialog. John Indeed, it is rough to live in a world where being judged by appearance and physical attributes seems to be the dominant way. We are programmed, as are many other animals, to seek mates based on physical appearance, and most animals have a pecking order, some displaying brutality that rivals our own.

The only option I can see is to accept it, and if you want to change it then you must work within your own life to create relationships that aren’t based on outward appearance (and what does “appearance” really mean?) Rigorous self-examination is necessary- Can you really say you aren’t initially attracted to people based upon outward appearances? If so, can you say you choose a partner without heavily considering physical beauty, even if it is your definition of beauty? I can’t.

As a male I have come to terms with this long ago. I weigh about 135, and you could have painted a bullseye on my head because believe me I have been a nonstop target of physically bigger guys my whole life. I have gotten my ass kicked for no good reason many times, and have been harassed in many other ways over the years. For me it’s just reality. It’s not some abstract thing, it’s real- some people will kill you for what you look like.

Now with all that said, I’m a white male. I’ve been the target of racism, having been attacked my members of other races twice, both times I would call them definite hate crimes, one time they were out to kill me- kicked in the head so many times I couldn’t count. I can only imagine how some darker skinned people have been oppressed.

So, it’s not about man/woman, black/white. What *is* it about? And what can we do?

Thanks for opening an interesting dialog.

John

]]> By: admin http://www.elephantjournal.com/2008/08/american-apparel-now-sellingdr-bronners-soaps/comment-page-1/#comment-1463 admin Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:23:53 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/?p=1628#comment-1463 Most comments, like, ever! Another great post, Lindsey. You're my hero. Move out to Boulder, elephant will treat you to yoga any time all the time. Most comments, like, ever! Another great post, Lindsey. You’re my hero. Move out to Boulder, elephant will treat you to yoga any time all the time.

]]> By: lindsey http://www.elephantjournal.com/2008/08/american-apparel-now-sellingdr-bronners-soaps/comment-page-1/#comment-1461 lindsey Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:28:13 +0000 http://www.elephantjournal.com/?p=1628#comment-1461 I wanted to post this link to lighten this debate up a bit: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/14_american_apparel_models_freed, one of the funniest things I've ever seen from the Onion. Now that to me is sheer genius. I personally do not find anything innovative in the ads, but do see your point John that every time this comes up, it does give them more press, which I am not against! As you can see from what I wrote above, I support several of their initiatives. I am not a conservative person. I am just sick of living in a world where its women (and men, who are affected differently but I obviously can't speak for!) are flooded with images of female beauty "ideals" constantly. And I understand that the women in those ads went for it, of course they did, they live in a world of tv, movies, ads, fashion magazines, etc. that has been telling them looking a certain way holds serious value. I don't think it's healthy for the girl in the ad, or looking at the ad, and something I hope we move away from. My intention here was to highlight a few of the many considerations a company takes in being socially responsible, and yes advertising to me is just as important in this as carrying an amazing product like Dr. Bronners. I wanted to post this link to lighten this debate up a bit: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/14_american_apparel_models_freed, one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen from the Onion. Now that to me is sheer genius. I personally do not find anything innovative in the ads, but do see your point John that every time this comes up, it does give them more press, which I am not against! As you can see from what I wrote above, I support several of their initiatives. I am not a conservative person. I am just sick of living in a world where its women (and men, who are affected differently but I obviously can’t speak for!) are flooded with images of female beauty “ideals” constantly. And I understand that the women in those ads went for it, of course they did, they live in a world of tv, movies, ads, fashion magazines, etc. that has been telling them looking a certain way holds serious value. I don’t think it’s healthy for the girl in the ad, or looking at the ad, and something I hope we move away from. My intention here was to highlight a few of the many considerations a company takes in being socially responsible, and yes advertising to me is just as important in this as carrying an amazing product like Dr. Bronners.

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