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By: Kara N

Kara N — Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:04:54 +0000

Except that the human body is actually NOT well suited for eating much meat. Also, the fact that you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD do it. This is not a highly cognitive statement. Do you also rape, because it makes so much biological sense and you CAN do it?

You should also probably go back and reread Darwin. HTH.

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By: Dylan

Dylan — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:56:39 +0000

While different points of view should be welcomed to important discussions such as these, I am disappointed with the quality of this argument. I am a vegetarian and don't disagree that it is natural to eat meat, but the problem is, I am sure everyone here is aware, sustainability. Corporate agriculture (whether mono-culture potato fields or pig farms with nearly one million sows) is not natural. What makes humans unique (or what should) is our ability to reason and from this our ability to make responsible decisions that effect not only us individually, but the planet as a whole. Unless you are certain that the beef on your plate came from a nearby ranch that raises animals humanely, or that tofu came from soybeans other than Roundup Ready strains, you probably should not have it there. That we are at the (near) top of the food chain should have much less an impact on our decisions of what to ingest than what the overall impact on the planet will be as a result of these decisions. The inadequacy of this pseudo-argument can be summed up with the statement: "Mentally it’s basically equivalent to a living plant…" As we all know, plants ARE living.

By: Lindsey

Lindsey — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:39:35 +0000

Meat doesn't taste as good as saving the environment feels.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:45:45 +0000

Wow! A lot of emotion coming out here. Also, a lot of shouting down. Perhaps talking about meat here is akin to yelling fire in a theater. Maybe it was just wrong. I am a sometimes reader of Elephant having seen some interesting articles but I get tired of the same refrains.

The Elephant, what is it. A religious site, a yoga site, a go along to get along site. Heck, we have those in all flavors. Why not one more just for this particular point of view. We can all get together and agree to agree on everything. That does not do much to inspire outsiders to look inside. From my vantage point Elephant sometimes looks like a scrape-book collection gathered hither and fro. A little Daily Report, a column from Huffington Post, some carping on commercialism, denial of our sexual nature and some talk of the ephemeral plane.

Is that change? Well, good luck Waylon. Our world needs to change and change is difficult. It usually ends up in compromise that leaves everybody equally upset.

PS: what does this comment have to do with eating meat? Nothing.

By: DJW

DJW — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:05:14 +0000

As a UVM Political Science alum, I would like to distance myself as far as possible from both John's views and his ridiculous lack of ability to reason. Do yourself a favor and take Prof Wertheimer's class on Public Policy and Ethics, learn to form a coherent argument and rewrite this piece. A pro-meat eating article would be welcome on this forum, I think, if it were done in a thoughtful way.

By: terry

terry — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:23:46 +0000

Here's a good video on meat: http://meat.org

By: christopher

christopher — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:29:55 +0000

Glad you are engaged in your food. That's awesome.

"I think we can absolutely make steps towards making the industry more humane, but considering the influence the industry hold in our country it will be incredibly difficult and "self-righteous" vegetarians need stop trying to force their views upon the rest of the public eating meat when the problem is big business."

Big business changes when dollars move.
People's dollars move when their tastes change.
Their tastes change, most of the time, due to advertising.

Vegetarians have a right to advertise their point of view just as much as big business or meat lovers do.

Going around calling them names is kind of pointless, unless you aim to hurt them.