There can be no Transformation until there’s 100%. There Cannot be an Enemy. The War has to End.

Via on Oct 18, 2011

As long as there is them, there is no transformation, there is no solution.

There is no solution until there is 100%.

As long as there is *them* and the finger remains pointing accusatorially, there is no solution.

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About Tobye Hillier

Originally from England, Tobye Hillier has lived in Ireland for over 17 years, living in a small seaside town called Greystones 20 miles south of Dublin. A qualified Karuna yoga teacher (RYT 500), Tobye also plays a pretty darn funky 5-string bass guitar and likes to sing in other peoples' showers. Empathic and intuitive, He likes to bend Yoga to suit people and not the other way around.

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6 Responses to “There can be no Transformation until there’s 100%. There Cannot be an Enemy. The War has to End.”

  1. Ramesh says:

    Provocative. I agree and disagree. In an absolute yogic/spiritual sense, he is right. In a relative social/political/economic sense, he is not. Many good changes happen in society even if people enact these changes out of frustration, out of anger. If we wait until everyone in a demonstration or movement is enlightened, we will wait forever to see any change at all. So he is both right and wrong. We need yogis like him to point the way toward nondualism, and we need the same nondual yogis to be large enough of heart to embrace those who act out of frustration and dualism to enact change in this world.

  2. Gabe says:

    Completely agree, and am glad to hear someone else say it! This points to the solution beyond the mind, which is my interest in this. To comment on Ramesh's comment above, I would say that change is possible through anger and fear, but transformation is not. We see this on the individual level all the time. Transformation is far more mysterious than we, as a collective, will currently admit. It requires a complete yes, a 100% yes.

    • Ramesh says:

      On a spiritual level, Gabe, yes, it is true… on a social and economic level, change comes though all kinds of ways and one can never reach "perfection" on that dualistic plane… thus I found the comments too abstract, too aloof from reality.A nondual perspective embraces the dualistic and that is what I felt missing. In other words, let's embrace the angry OWS people, they also deserve our love and support because they are fighting a good fight, a necessary fight. That embrace was missing in the message. Let us of course also embrace the 1%, the exploiters while pointing out their folly. The embrace must be total.

      • Gabe says:

        I agree with the total embrace, as you describe it, except that I don't see one level as spiritual and one level as non-spiritual. I think to criticize this post as being too abstract, too aloof from reality, may mean that it is missed that this post also exists in duality, and so will never relay the perfect message, even with critique and corrections. I think what we all want is balance, and so each time we write/speak, we are trying to make an adjustment to what we just read/heard, to bring in more balance. Tobye's post is in this spirit, I believe, as are your comments and mine. We are all attempting to be curative.

        I think I am agreeing with you in my comments, Ramesh. I stated that change can occur in these ways, as you point out. But I am distinguishing "change" from "transformation." Per this thread I am saying that what we are after is not more dualistic change (which, as you point out, will never reach perfection), but rather we are looking to a transformation, something that totally establishes a new paradigm. But I am not much of a word smith, so maybe my ideas do not read well – I certainly find my ideas on this hard to write about. I appreciate that you took the time to reply :)

      • Tobye Hillier yogi tobye says:

        Nicely put Ramesh.

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