Louis CK: “Girls” vs. “Women.”

Via on Feb 19, 2012

Do you generally use the word “girl” or “woman” to describe an adult female?

Is the distinction important to you? I know the feminist consensus is something like “everyone over age 12 should be referred to as a woman.” I tend to say girl most of the time if I’m talking about myself or close friends. I was 12 a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. Still, sometimes I feel like “woman” just sounds so mature and serious. Lady…hmmm. Maybe. Depends on whether it’s used as “She’s such a lady,” or “Listen here, lady!” Chick. Babe. Dame. Broad. Lots-of-other-nice-and-not-so-nice-words. I turn 36 next month. I think it’s time to graduate to “woman.”

Especially after listening to Louis CK on the subject:

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Relephant and super-fun:


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Kate Bartolotta is the strongest girl in the world. She is the love child of a pirate and a roller derby queen. She hails from the second star to the right. Her love of words is boundless, but she knows that many of life’s best moments are completely untranslatable. When she is not writing, you may find her practicing yoga, devouring a book, playing with her children, planting dandelions, or dancing barefoot with her heart on her sleeve. She is madly in love with life and does not know how this story ends; she’s making it up as she goes. Kate is the owner and editor-in-chief of Be You Media Group. She also writes for The Huffington Post, elephant journal, The Good Men Project, The Green Divas, Yoganonymous, The Body Project, Project Eve, Thought Catalog and Soulseeds. She facilitates writing workshops and retreats throughout North America. Heart Medicine, Kate's book on writing, is now available on Amazon.com You can follow Kate on Facebook and Twitter


11 Responses to “Louis CK: “Girls” vs. “Women.””

  1. Andrea Balt Andréa Balt says:

    Thanks for making my morning, Kate.

    I'm a girl who sometimes gets too tired of being a woman and wishes to be a girl again but not if this means she can't be a woman the next second. What I am sure about is that I would totally (you know) Luis CK for making me laugh so hard.

    (Happy early b-day! Please don't fully update to Woman. Stay a girl a little longer.)

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  2. Andrea Balt Andréa Balt says:

    Ok, I tried to comment but it looks like the Vs are abducting all my words. Not fair.

    It said something like… thanks for making my morning… blahblah… I would "monologue" Luis CK any time… I'm a girl… no, I'm a woman…blah… I love Kate… oh look, a cat…

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  3. wheredthatcomefrom says:

    this was sadly offensive.. i was not expecting it to be so.. awful. I expected much more intelligence from a post from you, kate haha

    • Oh! Sorry you felt that way…I thought it was funny. But, included the NSFW disclaimer about the language, obviously.

      • wheredthatcomefrom says:

        not so much the swearing.. just the way he talks about girls and women.. i was hoping for the funny, maybe even some truth, without the insulting manor in which regards both. 😉 haha

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  5. inkkedlunae says:

    I'd like a transcript. This is not accessible for everyone as I am Deaf, and no, the YouTube captioning isn't up to standards. It's basically nonsense.

  6. susiebunnykins says:

    Utter rubbish, The distinction between girls and women coming from a mans perspective is quite frankly offensive. As a woman you should never allow a man to define your parameters. This man is not funny, he's being sexist and condescending. I'm surprised you can't tell the difference.

    • EJ Reader says:

      Most ironic comment I've seen in awhile.

      He is funny, just not to you. He was standing on a stage, doing what he does for a living, making people laugh. He wasn't preaching to a crowd, talking about all the wrong things guys do to women, or trying to change the minds of mankind. He was telling observational jokes.

      The irony comes from someone else telling others what to do. So, in your opinion, women should allow other women to define "your parameters?" Isn't this the exact opposite of the never ending outrage with health magazines, models, and hollywood industry of what women should be or look like? I say, you be you. Define yourself. Also, leave comedy to the professionals.

      Finally, my favorite line. "This man is not funny, he's being sexist and condescending. I'm surprised you can't tell the difference." I dunno, condescend much yourself?

      Kate was trying to share something she found insightful and/or funny. Instead, you wanted her to censor herself to what, your standards? How could she possibly do that? Perhaps a better approach might be to support her desire to explore outside the realm of the usual EJ articles and see what works. Sure, feedback is always helpful and you could let her know it might not be along the lines that you're used to. That would be understandable. But to tear someone down is just plain ol' rude, unnecessary, and unproductive.

      All the best.

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