The moment Romney lost the debate?

Via on Oct 16, 2012

Click here for my “Binders full of women” & 10 other Top Moments of the 2nd Debate: President Obama & would-be President Romney.  ~ ed.

Can you say it louder, Candy?

The moment Obama won the debate, or Romney lost it?

 

And that’s how Romney lost the Libya question in front of 100 million TV viewers.

This is the difference that a strong moderator and live, fair fact-checking makes.

Right this way, down the garden path of the gaffe of the night. ~ Obama

Audience applause, despite instructions.

~

Here’s the transcript of that speech:

Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We’re working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I’ve also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

~ President Obama, Rose Garden statement, Sept. 12

About Waylon Lewis

Waylon Lewis, founder of elephant magazine, now elephantjournal.com & host of Walk the Talk Show with Waylon Lewis, is a 1st generation American Buddhist “Dharma Brat." Voted #1 in U.S. on twitter for #green two years running, Changemaker & Eco Ambassador by Treehugger, Green Hero by Discovery’s Planet Green, Best (!) Shameless Self-Promoter at Westword's Web Awards, Prominent Buddhist by Shambhala Sun, & 100 Most Influential People in Health & Fitness 2011 by "Greatist", Waylon is a mediocre climber, lazy yogi, 365-day bicycle commuter & best friend to Redford (his rescue hound). His aim: to bring the good news re: "the mindful life" beyond the choir & to all those who didn't know they gave a care. elephantjournal.com | facebook.com/elephantjournal | twitter.com/elephantjournal | facebook.com/waylonhlewis | twitter.com/waylonlewis | Google+ For more: publisherelephantjournalcom

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14 Responses to “The moment Romney lost the debate?”

  1. Yes! This was quite intense and I'm glad I saw it live.

    • Linda V. Lewis says:

      Yes! Here in Canada too this part was played on the news several times and Obama given the victory for this bout!

  2. Concerned Voter says:

    Unfortunately for all Americans it was 1) a violation of debate rules for Candy to even comment; and, 2) neither one of them are entirely accurate. President Obama did not actually call the incident in Libya an "act of terrorism;" he clearly references terror but in the context I assumed he was talking about 9/11 and not Libya.

    • JCC says:

      I think this is interesting, because I assumed he was talking about both 9/11 in 2001 (NYC) and 2012 (Libya). He compared the two, so unless he didn't view the first 9/11 as an act of terrorism… well, it is just interesting to me that people interpret the same words in different ways. But obviously that is very much the case. And fascinating. And unfortunately often frightening for many of us as well.
      But thanks for your point of view. It really is interesting.

    • Linda V. Lewis says:

      You assume incorrectly. He was referencing Libya and the loss of 4 Americans there. Also, it's the moderator's job to quickly fact find so that the debaters don't get stuck on a word and so that she can move the argument along. That's why she has the wire in one ear–for fact finding resolution, and for knowing how much time to give each speaker. She can't juggle all of that on her own. She had a tough job and did as well as any moderator could.

  3. Ben_Ralston says:

    Judging by the speed with which this page is growing – https://www.facebook.com/romneybindersfullofwomen – I'd say maybe not!

  4. Mark Ledbetter says:

    Obama won? Looked pretty evenly matched to me. But what do I know, seeing as how I liked Obama much better the first time, the one where everyone says that Romney won by a mile.

    In any case, it's just a boxing match and people seem to think America should vote for the best boxer. Obama came out boxing this time, which is why it was evenly matched. He's always been an excellent boxer and, surprisingly, it turns out Romney's pretty good, too. The non-boxer Obama of the first debate was, to me, much better, but you don't win if you don't box, so this time he came out boxing.

    This time, it was two excellent defenders of the status quo boxing over their slightly different versions of how to manage the warfare-welfare state, with both basically avoiding any mention of budgetary responsibility. Honesty about the budget will also lose you the election.

    So, to win, you have to box best and lie most convincingly about spending out of control. On that, both did a good job so I call it even.

    • Linda V. Lewis says:

      For inconsistent statements (lies) Romney won. For referencing his actual record (actions speak louder than words) Obama won.

  5. Xerxes says:

    The definition of terror may be relative, but the parading of the Ambassador's body in the streets after he was killed was terrible. It was terrible to learn later that security was denied, and equally terrible for Romney to try and score political points off of it.

    Both candidates stink. It's come down to choosing the least worst candidate.

  6. Mark Carrier says:

    The media really really needs for Obama to have won this one so that the public will keep watching the media and the drama won't be over!

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  8. @undefined says:

    What's offensive is the Innocent of Muslims video that Obama pushed to the world as the cause of the "terror." What evidence did the administration have that the video was the cause, especially considering the revelations that there were no protests.

    Anyways, these debates are not really about substance as Barry Eisler, http://barryeisler.blogspot.com/, correctly points out in his blog. They are about style, and when Romney doesn't have a podium to hide behind, he can't compete with Obama on style.

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