“Most Yoga Teachers Start Teaching Prematurely and with Unsafe Principles.” ~ Éva Kincsei

Via on Oct 24, 2012

An interview with Simon Borg-Olivier.

I recently had the opportunity to sit down with Simon Borg-Oliver, founder of the Yoga Synergy teaching style and director of the
Yoga Synergy School in Sydney, to talk about his approach to teaching and some of the more common misconceptions and most
worrying phenomena in the current yoga scene worldwide.

The uniqueness of Yoga Synergy—which is a teaching style based on traditional hatha yoga—lies in its having been developed by two Australian former research scientists, Bianca Machliss and Simon Borg-Olivier, who later became physiotherapists and have cultivated the Yoga Synergy system especially for the modern western body with an understanding of western science. Thus, they have created sequences based on the teachings of both Iyengar and Patthabi Jois in which the experience of flow goes hand in hand with proper alignment.

As the story goes, on a sunny afternoon in Sydney sometime in the ‘80s a molecular biologist and a research scientist sat down on a sandy beach scattering around heaps of cards with photos of all the asanas on them from the sequences taught by Iyengar and Patthabi Jois to select the ones they were going to use in their own style. Is this accurate?

It was never our intention to create a new style of yoga. We have a school which is called Yoga Synergy and we are sometimes called “people who teach the Yoga Synergy style” but we are just teaching the yoga of our teachers: B.K.S. Iyengar, Sandor Remete and Patthabi Jois, amongst many others, who were long time teachers of us and who we have every respect for.

But along the way you develop ways of explaining things that work for you, and you think work best for other people, and you see the best results with. And I think B.K S. Iyengar was one of the first people who said to me that he didn’t teach Iyengar-yoga, he teaches yoga. It just happens that other people call it Iyengar-yoga. So I don’t think of myself as teaching anything but yoga. But other people call it Yoga Synergy or the Synergy of Simon and Bianca.

But what Bianca and I tried to do on that sunny afternoon after scattering around the cards on the beach (laughing) was to reach as many people as possible with our method. So we have really tried to develop the traditional hatha yoga we were taught and make it work for the people of the modern world. So we started with a simple ashtanga vinyasa yoga primary sequence and made some modifications to it based on our observations about the yoga practice of people with modern western bodies and our experiences with them as teachers.

What are these important modifications you’ve made?

One of the things that we noticed was that a lot modern people were getting a lot of wrist problems. So we incorporated a bunch of neural-tensioning exercises at the start which are essentially nerve-stretches. These nerve-stretches—including wrist movements which tension or lengthen nerves coming out of the brachial-plexus around the neck—help prepare the wrists to do movements like the push-up positions. They also prepare the neck to move a little bit more freely and when you do these movements the right way they also loosen up the spine.

Then we also noticed, for example, that because people sit in chairs so much in the modern world the front of their hips are very stiff. And when people who’ve been sitting all day long with the front of their hips contracted, try to make themselves stand up straight they bend their backs further backwards than they should naturally instead of extending or opening the hips. So they constantly stand and walk in a hip-flexed and spinal-extended position which is basically walking around with a squashed lower back.

So, when they come to do their first upward dog in a typical sun salutation such as in the Ashtanga vinyasa primary sequence, what tends to happen is that their lower back is already compressed and they compress, shorten and tense it even more.

So to compensate for this, we introduced a lunging salute which is a version of a “Moon Salute.” And this prepares the front of the hips to open up a little bit. So when you bend the spine backwards in upward dog it is less likely to squash the lower back and more likely to lengthen the front. So this was another modification that we made. And there are many more.

You’ve been a student of both Patthabi Jois and Iyengar. What were the main differences in their approach to yoga?

Patthabi Jois and B.K.S. Iyengar are both brilliant teachers and essentially the yoga they are teaching is the same.

On a simple level, Iyengar stresses that you should have detail and alignment in a posture, but because the mind can only usually focus on one thing at a time, he stresses detailed alignment, instead of worrying about breathing. He encourages just natural breathing.

Whereas Patthabi Jois would say do not worry about alignment, concentrate on bandha, ujjayi breath and drishti. Just those three things. Iyengar said that yoga teachers should not give more than three instructions in every posture because that is how much people can focus on. So Patthabi Jois said the same. Only three instructions: drishti, bandha and breath. And for me that says the same thing: if you focus on alignment, do not worry about the breathing. If you focus on breathing, don’t worry about alignment.

And so many people doing Patthabi Jois’ yoga were accused by many people doing Iyengar’s yoga that they were completely misaligned. But actually the alignment was still there relative to their own bodies because they had bandha, drishti and pranayama.

But in the late ‘80s and early ‘90s students from Iyengar started to pay visits to Patthabi Jois and with them they brought the focus on alignment. And the students started to get a little bit typically western minded of what they wanted from the practice: they wanted to get good alignment and good breathing at the same time. And to try to do both together, fries the nervous system. It’s not possible.

The thing is that if you follow the instructions that Iyengar gives you, you automatically create bandha and good pranayama. If you follow the instructions precisely that Patthabi Jois gives you, in particular how to learn the sequence, then you automatically get good alignment. So their practices appear different for some of these reasons and many more I could elaborate on, but essentially they were teaching the same thing. It took me a while to realize it. But it’s true.

What are the most common misconceptions amongst yoga practitioners nowadays?

Most yoga that is practiced in the world today and called yoga is about over-stretching, over-tensing, over-breathing, over-thinking and then, afterwards followed by over-eating.

This is a generalization but this is the problem with most yoga practice that most people do. But when you are in yoga, it does not feel like you are stretching, it does not feel like you are tensing, breathing or thinking. And you feel nourished by the practice so much that you do not feel hungry afterwards. Or you don’t feel tired afterwards either. And yet you feel relaxed at the same time and still doing things.

Photo: David Garrigues

Another common misunderstanding is that mula bandha or uddiyana bandha—people often confuse the two—has something to do with always drawing your abdomens inwards and constantly using the muscles of complete exhalation, namely the transverses abdominis, the internal oblique and external oblique muscles congealed together. If you do this, although it might prevent a little bit of back pain because the spine can’t move, this will immobilize the spine and force every movement into the hip, especially when flexing the hip.

So you will get more problems in the hip, the spine will become stiffer, the internal organs won’t move and the diaphragm can’t work. That means that you are probably going to get more back problems and hip problems as the hip is only moving into one orientation. And also because the spine is not being able to move means that knee problems will come a little bit later too.

But the biggest problem is when people are constantly drawing their abdomen inwards in a way that inhibits their diaphragm. And by that, they force themselves to breath into the chest. Breathing into the chest is fine if the diaphragm is still able to work but 90 percent of the people cannot breathe into their chest if their abdomen is completely relaxed.

What happens then is that you invoke a much more powerful sympathetic nervous system response and in lay terms you put yourself into a flight or fight response. So the feeling you have then is to flight or fight. And this primitive response is useful sometimes, but not to have all day long. So when you’re in flight or fight mode, you will turn off your reproductive system, your digestive system and immune system.

Do most people practice yoga in an inappropriate way? How do you reckon this based on you observing and teaching yoga practitioners for 30 years?

There are always two types of people doing yoga in the world: there are the ones doing really soft, gentle relaxing yoga but very little physical activity. I call this “thatha” yoga. (The word “hatha” means uniting opposite forces in which ‘ha’ refers to heat and high pressure and ‘tha’ refers to cool and low pressure.) Because it is just so soft and gentle. And of course you can really relax when all you’re doing is lying on your back.

And then the other half of the world is practicing a stressful exercise done in a stressful way which I call “haha” yoga. Because they are doing these really stressful things and they get even more stressed by doing them. And it generates emotional responses of fear, anger and aggression. They compensate a little bit at the end by doing ten minutes of the “thatha” yoga, e.g.,they lie down and relax. But real real hatha yoga includes doing stressful things in a relaxing way.

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So the relaxation in yoga practice should not begin an hour and a half after you start the practice. It should begin at the moment you get on your mat. And you should learn to do things remaining in a calm state. That is why the only definition we have of physical yoga from the Pantanjali Yoga Sutras is “sthira sukham asanam,” which means that the physical exercise you do should be firm and calm.

I also find it a bit worrying that most of the teachers I’ve met as practitioners are mixing esoteric, Ayurvedic and Sanskrit yogic terms with western scientific terminology and they do not really have the slightest clue what they are talking about.

I am lucky that I have really good teachers both in the West and in the East and I have also been studying at university doing my research. Of course, I’ve got the grey hair to show for it, because I have spent a lot of time doing it. But there were many years when I did not understand a lot of things. And I still profess that there are lots of things I do not understand. My teachers know it much more than I do. And it may take another 20 or 30 years to understand what they know.

So, what I’m suggesting is that a lot of yoga teachers don’t know enough. And they are actually teaching, I believe, prematurely. There’s too much poor yoga being taught in the world today. And it has been taught at a level and with principles which are not safe to the body. If you are teaching traditional bodies, you can teach traditional yoga. But if you teach non-traditional bodies you have to adapt and modify the traditional yoga intelligently and safely. And it has really taken me 25 years to cultivate it and another 15 years of learning yoga for myself. And that’s not easy to do unless you have a good teacher and a good time and place to do it.

You are constantly emphasizing the importance of safe practice while you have online courses. Can yoga be taught safely online?

It is safe to teach yoga online only if you apply the principles that I have just given you.

But there’s always going to be someone who doesn’t listen to what you’re saying and will try more than he supposed to do. But that will happen even in a class one on one. I believe I’ve developed a very effective system to teach people at a distance so they can’t hurt themselves.

You mentioned that your primary motive to teach yoga was your own yoga practice, in which you have experienced so many beneficial things you felt you had to share them. What are these very positive experiences during your practice?

During yoga practice I feel completely connected to. . .

. . .to the universal consciousness?

Yes, but primarily I feel connected to myself. It is the first place I start. Yes, you are probably quoting me because I sometimes say that the definition of yoga I like the most is to realize that our individual consciousness is one with the universal consciousness. The realization, not the attainment, as we are already connected before we even start the practice. That’s the realization of yoga. But the realization of hatha yoga, of physical yoga, as opposed to global yoga is that our brains are connected to the rest of our bodies. And so for me, I get up in the morning to do hatha yoga, some sort of physical yoga practice, to help me circulate blood through my body, to get my nerves firing properly, to get the lymphatic system working properly, to get my acupuncture meridian and nadi-system functioning properly, so I feel connected in that way.

Do you have spiritual realizations during the practice as well?

When you really feel totally connected within yourself during and after the practice, you will realize that you connect better with your family members, the people you call your friends, the people you work with and even the people you don’t know or don’t like. And you realize that this connection grows with each practice. It also grows not just within people and within yourself, but also in the way you treat the Earth. Then, every time you come back to the practice you slowly realize that yoga really brings you to the realization that we are totally connected to everything else and to me that is the most important spiritual realization. And it builds from one practice to the next.

You said that according to Iyengar, it is never wise to give more than three instructions to people when they are being taught yoga. What would be your three most important instructions to yoga practitioners?

Stretch less, tense less and breathe less while practicing. It also applies to running a marathon race.

 

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Éva is professional journalist, who does not really believe in chakras and nadis, and prefers the musculoskeletal and physiological way of teaching yoga to the esoteric babble. She started recklessly practicing Ashtanga yoga five years ago that it left her with a bulging disc and with other back problems. A year ago she got herself familiar with the tenets of the Synergy Style and started practicing Ashtanga in the spirit of Bianca’s and Simon’s teachings and since then her back pain is gone. You can contact her on Facebook or through one of the following sites:

http://www.behance.net/Kincsei

http://www.nisimazine.eu/_Eva-Kincsei-Hungary_.html

http://arenafilm.hu/ember/Kincsei_%C3%89va&film=3diknem

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37 Responses to ““Most Yoga Teachers Start Teaching Prematurely and with Unsafe Principles.” ~ Éva Kincsei”

  1. greateacher says:

    hmmmm
    there is a lot in this to think about.
    My first questions/comments: midway through there is an assertion that half of yoga practitioners are practicing their yoga too soft.. and the other half of yoga practitioners are practicing too tense yoga. If both halves ar epracticing yoga incorrectly . then no one is practicing correctly or well.

    I also question the final comment.." stretch less, tense less and breathe less" what? why? Stretching and breathing ar efundamental components of yoga.. is the speaker tellign us to do less yoga?

    Sometime speople get carried away with pontificating or generalizing to make some point.. and lose track of what their intention is.

    • Heather Morton Heather says:

      My understanding is that when yoga is done too softly there is not enough agni (fire) being generated…and thus, can create more tamas feelings. If, one the other hand, a person is doing yoga too harshly then more rajas is created. The main pt. as I understand it is each practitioner must come to know what is the middle way for them. Eg. are you a more aggressive person….or only push at certain times and others are passive. Or, are you usually going for the soft approach.

      Where it really gets tricky but interesting is if you work with a skilled teacher they will push you in the direction that is not your comfort zone. And unfortunately, most of us have been overly conditioned to like what we like and fail to see how something we reject or feel adverse to may actually be in the end the better way for us to practice.

      So, again, my understanding is that yes, both ways…too much soft…too much hard…are incorrect. That is why hatha-yoga is really called a skill in action.

      Less breaths are taken because the more effective the breathing the less stress on the entire system. Again, most people breathe quite shallowly and over-breathe. Preparing to expand the lungs and slow the breath down is very difficult to learn. But that is the proper way and I have been taught by my teacher in India for the last 12 years.

      It's not less yoga, but certainly less breathing….eg…one breath could last up to 15 seconds or more. Iyengar has some great demos. on this.

    • Eva Kincsei says:

      hello Greateacher,
      Obviously, the” assertion that half of yoga practitioners are practicing their yoga too soft. And the other half of yoga practitioners are practicing too tense yoga” was a bit of jest. A hyperbole with a pinch of irony to highlight and emphasize the crux of the matter. Not to taken literally, in other words.

      • greateacher says:

        well, with an all or nothing hyperbole, the reader i sleft to question other items in a complex article– what is truth, hyperbole, exaggeration, fact, fiction, witches tale, ignorant repetition..

  2. Edward Staskus says:

    Staying calm while practicing stressful yoga exercises is a lesson it took me a while to learn. In fact, it took Bikram Yoga to finally impress the principle on me. It does not make the practice any easier, but it makes my life easier.

    • Vision_Quest2 says:

      Yup, it's a mental thing. The hand and arm position alone in that video, is priceless. Keeping uddhiyana bandha and muladhara bandha engaged all the time–as is prescribed in power yoga–is not possible for me, so I use functional fitness sets and/or pilates to cross train all the time.

      Ideally your arms should be feeling that sequence in the video more than your lower back. I used to have great problems flowing from up dog to down dog.

  3. Jason Gan says:

    By “traditional bodies” I assume you mean teenage ectomorphic bodies, otherwise the reference to “tradition” is an over-generalization.

    • Heather Morton Heather says:

      Didn't get that pt. well. I assume the author meant more agile people's (more traditional) people who can bend and dont' have a lot of anatomical difficulties. And non-traditional as the common folks, lay-persons, who have years of conditioned sitting.

      Or, could be the other way around too. :-0)

      In the end, I would suggest NO body is traditional or non-traditional…..it is just a body….what it is is TRAINED or NON-TRAINED.

    • kecskemetib says:

      I think he refers to someone living a more traditional lifestyle. Eating, drinking, social interaction happened while sitting on the floor. Try sitting on the floor cross legged and reach for something that's half a meter in front of you and to the left (eg. the salt). It seems clear to me that someone doing such things regularly from an early age would have very different mobility in their hips and spine. Now as I type, I sit in a rolling chair, and my hips and spine will not really have to move for the next 8 hours. Also, traditional lifestyle involved squatting when going to the toilet, walking long distances, sometimes also carrying heavy objects on the head. I consider myself "trained", "exercising" 2 hours per day, but the rest of my awake time is spent in chairs, elevators, cars etc.
      The notion "traditional body" vs "modern body" necessarily involves generalization, but I do not think it is inappropriate or over-generalizing. The effect of culture and lifestyle on our bodies is huge.

      • Heather Morton Heather says:

        Well, if you take a look at Indian people who don't train in yoga (re: cobblers) their hips are extremely open from sitting in baddha konasana all day long. This is why the squat toilet in the East is said to be better than our version in the West, which resembles a chair.

        Certainly culture and lifestyle are huge effects, but that is confusing the use of tradition vs. non-tradition. As well, even the use of trained vs. non-trained is completely relative.

        There are good pts. made in the article!

    • Vision_Quest2 says:

      He means externally rotated hips, loosey-goosey femurs and sacrums, equal proportions in upper and lower limbs and an ideal long torso. Possibly referring to an "ideal" quantity and location of any body fat. Also young and with "no impediments."

      The rest is cultural window dressing and size kyriarchy.

  4. Hatha Yoga says:

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  5. Bojanca says:

    i totally agree with this article.

    • greateacher says:

      ok, breathe less, try less, do less, practice less, tense less, stretch less.. ???????

      • Miguel says:

        I think people misunderstood hathayoga – when you tense or stretch it creates energy blockages throughout the body. The purpose of hathayoga was to make energy (prana) flow throught the body – this flow is most effective when there's no constrictions, when you move freely.

  6. Talia says:

    Excellent article, even though I'm a qualified teacher and have done yoga daily for over 10 years I've haven't yet felt comfortable teaching due to knowing that I really did not know enough and wanted to feel a deep understanding of safety and breathing prior to teaching. I have experienced the damage that an inexperienced teacher can cause and also the healing that true wise teacher can impart…

  7. Sydoni Smith says:

    Even after 20 years of dedicated Yoga practice and study, (of which the last five years i've taught and shared Yoga), a Degree in Human Movement, which covered the biomechanics, physiology, anatomy, psychology, pathology, neurology and every other system within the body in GREAT detail, I still feel like a baby of yoga. I'm three quarters of the way through Simon and Biancas on-line Anatomy and Physiology course and I see how much more there is to learn………I spent many years in judgement about people who would do a short two month teacher training course and qualify as a yoga teacher, or have only two years or so of practice. I was mortified that by paying thousands of dollars and attending a course, wham bam, we have a yoga teacher. And then there were organisations that stated to regulate this and then stipulate that these courses indeed were valid grounds to enable teachers. I HAVE INDEED GROWN FROM THIS JUDGEMENTAL FIXED VIEW POINT HOWEVER. I see so very much now that each case is very different and the standard in SOME of these short course is so very valuable. Also that even though one may only be practicing asana for a shorter time frame that this also irreevant. As most drawn towards Yoga perhaps have already a yogic insightful practice into the other limbs. Things such as meditation (Dyana) or concentration which can come from all areas of life can give one yogic insight. Swimmers, divers have profoundly developed breath awareness for example. Martial artists a great understanding of the body and energetic systems. Mostly life itself can deliver much yogic awareness. Perhaps now I see that teaching Yoga is not as much about how long one has practiced or how much one knows, but more so, ones intention. I am still learning and my teaching practices I see have not always been as wise as they are now. I am confident that they still will improve more. Over the last five years I have received much wonderful feedback from clients who have grown and opened, become more at ease and content within themselves from their participation in my classes. Had I waited till I knew it all, I would not have met these people thus not had that influence. So I say with everything. Especially Yoga there are many ways to the same thing. And usually one way will say another is incorrect. (Much like religion's shhhh). But really all have the potential to serve. For example Through my own ridiculousness in my own practice I have injured myself. These injuries have taught me MUCH , however and I would never wish them not. So if your a yoga teacher and you read this article and realise your teaching practices perhaps are not perfect, rather than fret or stop teaching, consider your intention and if the Yogic way inspires and awakens you to the universal secrets, by all means keep on sharing and teaching what you love. And if you want some more knowledge and see you may need an upgrade on safe practice in teaching YOGA, then by all means consider YOGA SYNERGY with Simon and Bianca as I can assure you they are TRUE MASTERS in what they teach.

    Also in regards to the comment and question asking Simon if an on-line course would provide knowledgeable understanding I can certainly add to the mix. I have studied for much of my life, many courses through many brilliant organisations, including university. And the on-line Anatomy and Physiology course offered by Yoga Synergy is nothing short of brilliant. Equally, if not more, academic, relevant, insightful, interactive, helpful and practical then all the university and external learning I have experienced.

  8. timful says:

    I was totally impressed by his description of taking those shortened hip flexors from sitting all day right into up dog, and just cramming the lower back down even more. My problem exactly. And I see how the "moon salutation" is a perfect remedy.

    I don't think there is such a problem teaching yoga to beginners. Almost anything will be good for them, as long as they are not pushed into it. I believe a bigger challenge may be teaching a practice that is healthy to do over and over, year after year. With time and repetition even minor imbalances grow into problems, and this is impossible to recognize without a great deal of experience. We really must depend upon the wisdom accumulated over the ages, both scientific and traditional.

    • Tienzon says:

      How and what you teach beginners is crucial.

      In my humble experience too many students get to yoga with set ideas – conscious and unconscious – about what they want (and as Simon says it is not very often what they need) and matching patterns that condition their approach to their practice.

      Most students let their minds lead their practice…. The result is likely to be too much stretch, too much tension, too much and to hard breath (specially in all the vinyasa styles) , thus creating more energy blockages, more samskaras and more conditioning – to cut a long story short.

      Unfortunately, the teacher approach might reinforce these patterns at times, instead of giving them the tools and pointers to establish a practice that will on the contrary allow them to slowly move towards a state of yoga (yogaś citta-vrtti-nirodha, Patanjali sutras, I.2).

      Having had the opportunity to do many workshops with Simon, I agree he is an amazing teacher and that the practice has developed (synergy yoga) is very efficient in terms of avoiding some common pitfalls of modern yoga and how it tends to be practiced in the West (and this comes from an ashtanga practitioner :)

      Bless u all.

  9. greateacher says:

    I now ask on the fourth read through.. is the initial wrist rolling exercise set to stretch the nerves or to release tension or contracted muscles.. MUSCLES ??

    • Mr. Shabby says:

      The aim of the „wrist-rolling exercise” or I’d rather call it the Nerve-lengthening Sequence
      is on an anatomical or physical level that the spine is lengthened (tractioned);
      the ankles, knees and hips are strengthened and mobilised in a weight-bearing
      posture; and the wrists, elbows and shoulders are strengthened
      and mobilised in a non-weight-bearing posture. The physiological (energetic) purpose of the ‘Nerve-lengthening Sequence’ is that the spine and arm are lengthened (tractioned), which enhances nerve conduction and the flow of energy – blood, energy carrying molecules such as glucose – and information – neurotransmitters, hormones – via the nervous system.

      In addition, actively mobilising the joints of the spine and limbs creates
      regions of high and low pressure, which enhances the movement of
      energy and information, primarily in the form of blood, through the
      cardiovascular system.

      This opening sequence gives the most important
      contribution to connecting the brain with the body in order to create
      yoga (union). The active half-squatting movements give functional
      mobility to the ankles, knees and hips, which help to mobilise the lower
      spine. The active arm movements give functional mobility to the wrists,
      elbows and shoulders, which help to mobilise the lower spine. These
      movements enhance circulation. This sequence also tensions
      (lengthens/'stretches') the nerves and acupuncture meridians going
      from the neck down the arm and can enhance the function of the wrists,
      elbows, shoulders and neck as well as stimulate the body systems.

      • greateacher says:

        so as you said the AIM of the wrist-rolling exercise is to lengthen the spine and strengthen the knees, ankles and hips.

        You did N T answer or directly respond to my query about lengthening nerves. You ended up sayign that this sequence tensions (lengthens/stretches) nerves. So we are back wher ewe began. I asked a ? and you babbled all around it. Nerves do NOT stretch. The nerve bed glides distally from the joint capsule.. this is nto exactly stretching. PLEASE BBE careful with your words!!!!!!!!! Muscles can be stretched and contracted or release contraction.
        I worry that if I can discover this major error and others in this article that the authors and you ( a devotee or teacher in a pseudonym) use other half-truths combined with your physical prowess and thus misinform people.

        • Mr. Shabby says:

          hello Greateacher,

          "This sequence also tensions
          (lengthens/'stretches') the nerves." tensioning is the proper verb and used throughout my answer . stretching is in a quotation mark and between brackets. yes, nerves cannot stretch and noone says that in the paragraph above. and I am also getting the impression from your other comments too that you are a huge troll, buddy

          • greateacher says:

            I am a very careful reader. It is interesting that instead of answer a question, you pontificate. When reasked you then insult a careful reader. You or the instructors NAME the exercie NERVE-Lengthening which DOES NOT happen nor can!! in your answers.

            Again, those who use poor terminology, hyperboles, misfacts and refuse to answer questions MAY create harm or misinformation to their readers.

          • TheJudge says:

            Mr Shabby, you are soooo right about this greateacher troll.

  10. Penny Fidler says:

    I did a one month yoga teacher training course with Sivananda for personal development only but was so blown away with how much I gained from it that I felt a responsibility to share my understanding of the information with anyone who thought they needed it. I have taught on a regular but limited basis for over 5 years to adolescents and adults and have never felt I was a danger to my students and have never had a complaint… on the contrary…. While I do agree that we are always learning, we certainly dont know much of what is out there so our knowledge is definitely limited….. cant this be said about the majority of teachers? You have to start somewhere and if you do it with an open heart and with the guru's guidance then surely it is better than nothing? I subscribe to the idea that good information is better than wrong information even if its limited… what you give to your students is a desire to know more if you are a motivating teacher and not all students want or have time to know more. Unlike Iyenger, Sivananda is not concentrated on anatomy or a deep understanding of it, it's more of an inner experience and ironically, they have much less injuries. So while caution is certainly necessary, a good teacher will always find a way to inspire even with less rather than more…

    • Heather Morton Heather says:

      Sivananda has and will always be the synthesis of yoga. Most teachers usually start off with them including myself.

      I would not say Sivanada is not concerned with anatomy…I got a whole booklet on it…in the Advanced TT it's mandatory.
      Sivananda was really about reaching Samadhi…and not as much empahsis on the body postures and performance. If you take a look at the Sivananda yoga book you'll see Vishnu-Devananda in some rather unperfected postures.In other words, one does not have the impression that he was trying hard to make it exact or that they were air-brushed. They are definitely au natural.

  11. Penny Fidler says:

    and yes Simon's online course is exceptional for anyone who already has a basic knowledge and would like to know more…. I can thoroughly recommend it…..

  12. Student says:

    I have been practicing yoga for many years and am a student in search for many years for some guidance. Can someone please help me understand what kind of yoga Mr. Simon Borg-Olivier is propagating? I cannot understand how his type of yoga http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I511eSOdYiE&fe… would be better than anything else all these other teachers who may or may not be qualified to teach.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I511eSOdYiE&fe

  13. Student says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I511eSOdYiE&fe
    this doesn't really seem like traditional hatha yoga to me. I don't mean to be critical. I would really like to study with Mr. Simon Borg-Olivier, but this method seems http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I511eSOdYiE&fe
    not like traditional hatha yoga to me
    If someone can please explain to me his method, i would greatly appreciate it.

    • Chris Whelan says:

      No one can really "explain the method"; as with any other physical activity, you have to do it to understand it.

      To reiterate the article, Simon and Bianca's methods of teaching are designed to help modern Western bodies utilise traditional hatha yoga to the benefit of the students' minds and bodies.

      Asanas in yoga cannot be judged by the way they appear in books and photos of Indian masters. What you see there are extremely accomplished, practised and knowledgeable practitioners of hatha yoga, performing the poses in ways that are designed to impress, not designed to instruct.

      Each pose in hatha yoga has a physiological purpose. It's been said to me that hatha yoga was invented in India to give hyperactive 15yr old boys something to concentrate on, as asking them to sit still and meditate would be fruitless. So the main physiological goal of hatha yoga is to a) prepare your body for sitting meditation and b) give your body an energetic physical activity to help create bodily conditions that foster meditation. Ultimately the result of the physical activity is the movement of energy and a great connection to your body, which is one of the facets of meditation.

      Simon and Bianca's style of teaching attempts to soften and interpret the obstacles that will prevent a modern Western body (stiff spine, constantly flexed hips, tense joints everywhere, unhealthy diet, clogged digestive system) from reaching that ideal physical state that fosters meditation.

      That's a fairly complicated way of saying that the Synergy style accepts that the modern Western body can't do what a natural, traditional body can, so let's do things in a way that achieves the same thing.

      The key physiological elements of hatha yoga are all there in the Synergy style of teaching. In fact, a natural, traditional body could learn hatha yoga under Simon or Bianca and end up appearing, in their poses, the same as any photo you would see of BKS Iyengar or any other traditional asana benchmark.

      So hatha yoga is not about achieving a pose. It is about creating the ideal conditions for the body to meditate.

      I hope this helps. Enough pontificating from me; time to sit in my chair for another 3hrs and then sit some more.

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