Who should Yogis vote for? Jocelyn Corbett of YogaVotes says…

Via Walk The Talk Show
on Oct 9, 2012
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…doesn’t matter.

What matters is that you and I get educated, decide for ourselves, get active, have fun, get registered and get in that voting booth (or vote early, or by mail). Democracy isn’t a spectator sport!

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25 Responses to “Who should Yogis vote for? Jocelyn Corbett of YogaVotes says…”

  1. Thaddeus1 says:

    Seriously…it's simply dis-ingenious to perpetuate the myth that America is a democracy. It's a republic. If it were a democracy, then people's votes would actually matter and the electoral college wouldn't elect the President, (at the very least). Am I the only one who payed attention in high school civics class? Or maybe, I was the smart one who didn't drink that kool-aid.


  2. elephantjournal says:

    Great point! And congrats to you!

    As for semantics, they are important in this case, I'll grant you that. You're right that we aren't a direct democracy—but we aren't a straight republic, either. We're a democratic republic, you could say—the two are not mutually exclusive. Our representatives are voted for, not appointed, generally. We vote on laws and law-makers, but we have core principles that cannot easily be changed, to protect the minority from the majority via democratic vote. There are different forms of democracy, as there are different forms of republics.

    We have a "representative democracy" in the U.S., with an elected President as head of state—so we're a republic…and a democracy, as well.

    Via Wikipedia:

    "Direct democracy was very much opposed by the framers of the United States Constitution and some signatories of the Declaration of Independence. They saw a danger in majorities forcing their will on minorities. As a result, they advocated a representative democracy in the form of a constitutional republic over a direct democracy."

  3. paul says:

    Jill Stein http://www.jillstein.org/ is the best candidate out there, she's on the ballot in most states but you can check at http://www.jillstein.org/ballot to see if you can vote for her (possibly as a write in)

    Gary Johnson is a good choice http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/front (he's on the ballot in all states)

  4. Thaddeus1 says:


    And yes, "representative democracy" is a more accurate description, but then maybe you could explain to me how you see the whole electoral college playing in. Since, it would seem to silly little me, that even in an actual "representative democracy" that the popular vote, i.e., the one that you actually cast, would bear some relevance on the outcome, but this simply isn't the case.

    The problem with such things are readily apparent for Republicans who live in California and Democrats who live in Alabama. Arguably, both those groups might as well stay home, since their votes will amount to little more than all these flowers I have in my house after the wedding. I mean, sure they look pretty and make me feel good, but they won't amount to a hill of beans.

  5. elephantjournal says:

    Well, I'm less informed with you, but generally know that many friends I respect dislike the electoral college and would love to see it go the way of … away.

  6. elephantjournal says:

    Neither one has managed Ross Perot levels of support–that's not to say they aren't great, but it is to say they aren't viable, and given a choice between only two viable candidates, I'm an Obama man. I look forward to another Perot—and hopefully, another lasting party.



  7. elephantjournal says:

    PS: I meant congrats to you on your wedding! How'd it go!?

  8. paul says:

    They haven't been given a voice, but f they're on the ballot they're viable. Libertarians and Greens are both lasting parties, and they aren't run by corporations.

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  10. Mark Ledbetter says:

    If it makes sense that yogis shouldn't under any circumstances vote for the war machine, then they should vote Jillstein or Johnson. If it makes sense that yogis shouldn't under any circumstances vote for the incarceration of millions for victimless crimes, our own thriving American Gulag,, they should vote for Johnson (don't know the Greens position on that one).

  11. Mark Ledbetter says:

    Another thought. Many songs of praise being sung here to democracy. Well, democracy gave the world Hitler (and Mussolini?), the American war machine, the American Gulag, and a crushing debt load for all the children of all modern democracies of the world.

    Democracy is the lesser god. The greater god is freedom and that can only thrive if the raw power of the state is tightly chained and the high pyramid of centralized power cut down. For that, you have to go back to constitutional government. Gary Johnson is the only choice. His Libertarian Party is the only one with a yogic ahimsa-like founding principle: non-aggression against non-aggressors.

  12. Thaddeus1 says:

    The wedding was awesome. There are some pics here you can check out…Frances pretty much DIY'd the whole thing. http://www.cramerphoto.com/

  13. elephantjournal says:

    We're all given a voice. It's up to us to earn it.

    My understanding is that third party candidates can make the debates, as they have in the past, if they garner more than 2% of the popular vote. But that's just a recollection…I'm sure you and many others know what you're talking about better than I do.

  14. elephantjournal says:

    Whooo! Beeeautiful.

  15. paul says:

    You need 5% to get federal funding, but the Commission on Presidential Debates (the private corporation that now runs the debates http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Presid… ) requires 15% in 5 national polls. If you know anything about polls, you know this is absurd, and no surprise given the two parties have real no interest in hearing any voice but their own. Here is a recent dn! interview of George Farah http://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/3/ahead_of_fi… on this secret process; there is a transcript there too.

  16. Auki says:

    Unfortunately, in the USA money rules. We're a plutocracy: Rule by the wealthy. 🙁

    Once again, we have a presidential race between two politicians that have sold their souls to big money, and have in turn been sold to us by their corporate paymasters and the media propaganda elites. All the third party candidates are irrelevant. Its always been a choice between the lesser of two evils. And that lesser evil is Obama… unless you don't care about women, the right for workers to organize, having a healthy environment, or having compassion for poor and underprivileged folks.

  17. ann says:

    i hate that you're right, but you're so damn right.

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  19. @undefined says:

    Our founders detested democracy, so no, we're not a democratic republic.

  20. @undefined says:

    I think yoga should be about mind expansion, seeing things clearly (vidya). Presidential politics is more about thought control, lies, distortion, and most dangerous… identification. So I don't think yogis should be involved in yoga the vote. Get out the vote movements are always about prez politics, based on the idea that the more people that vote, the better off we'll be, but there is no evidence for this.

    A real mindful yoga the vote, would be focused solely on local politics. Getting people involved in local elections, learning who's running, and helping spread the word to their neighbors. Prez politics are pretty much bought and paid for. And the lesser of two evils argument is bullshit. I would argue social issues, gay rights, women's rights, made more gains under Bush because more activists were involved.

    Personally, I think yoga and voting don't mix, but support yoga and activism. Teachers should be active in their communities, part of that is knowing who's running in local politics and pointing students to sources on local issues that get zero play in the media. We don't need help in national politics.

    Historically, social gains don't come from voting, they come from protests, picket lines, unions, activism, civil disobedience.

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  23. Edward Staskus says:

    The social gains that were established by FDR's New Deal and LBJ's Great Society came about because those two presidents used their mandate, gained as a result of voting, to effect those changes. It is a complex story, but voting does matter. Without it all the protests and activism in the world would have a hard road to hoe.

  24. Valentine says:

    What i don’t understood is in fact how you are no longer actually a lot more neatly-liked than you might be now. You are so intelligent.