Parenting Boys with Large Doses of Shame Works.

Via Jayson Gaddis
on Apr 1, 2012
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As a kid I got shamed a lot when I did something wrong.

Not only when I did something wrong, but when I genuinely felt scared or sad I was shamed and told “I‘ll give you something to cry about,” as if my reasons for being emotional weren’t good enough.


Sure, my old man’s shaming approach worked. I listened to my Dad. I was afraid of him. His dirty look and tone had me scared. I did what he said because fear and shame felt so awful and I didn’t want more of his intensity. And, his low-grade subtle form of shaming made me tough on the outside. And in doing so, it successfully covered up the profound sensitivity on the inside. I had to bottle up my vulnerability because my family had no room for it.

Why couldn’t they hang with all of me? Because my mom and dad couldn’t embrace their own sensitivity or vulnerability. That’s how it works.

Strangely, when I confronted my dad as an adult, his response was very telling. He said something like “yeah, but it worked.” In other words, he (and probably many men in his generation) still believes that shame is a good tool when raising a boy.  This is the boy-code in full effect

My old man kicked ass in a lot of ways, and he came up short in a lot of ways. He wasn’t emotionally available and had no tools in this area so he couldn’t help me with my sensitivity and vulnerability. When we talked about it, it was clear his vulnerable side had been ignored and squashed when he was a boy. As an adult, he never did any personal work, so it never changed.

When we parents are unable or unwilling to work with our own emotions and hurt places, we will act out with our kids. Typically we will try to shut down our kid’s experience first, instead of acknowledging that we are scared, triggered, or overwhelmed. It’s understandable because we get activated so fast in families. Our core hurt comes on in nanoseconds and we just “react.”

As a new parent, when my son acts out by hitting his sister, talking back or “manipulating” me, it often provokes me into considering the shame tool. I don’t like that my son has this power, but it’s the way it is. I see my inner-shamer come out and hear my dad’s voice inside my head shaming my son. Thankfully, before I let it out, I have space to notice it. I have enough room to choose a different course. Whew. And, thank me for being a parent who does the inner work required to have another option besides shame.

And yes, my inner-shamer does come out once in a while with my son, myself, my wife, friends, and strangers. It’s one I’ve been working on for years. He just lives in me, like an old hobbit, and pops out before I know it.  Yet over the years, I’ve gained more ground and space so I can see other choices most of the time.

My work as a parent is to slow this down and not let the animal part of my brain (encoding based on past memory) run the show. Having slowed down, I can see that I am reacting from a very young, hurt place in myself.

In the most subtle and intense fights with family members, our rational brain goes out the window. It’s like the hurt little kid inside of us takes the driver’s seat while the adult that can make good cognitive decisions is no where to be found. We enter a fight- flight – freeze, survival response. And, it’s all very normal.

Knowing that this is how we operate allows us room to get support and explore other possibilities. Soon enough, we gain more awareness, which opens to the door to more choices.

And, unlike animals, we can also “clean up” the mess we perhaps created if we shame our son, abandon him, or shut him down. We can take care of the hurt little one inside of us and choose to have the inner adult take the driver’s seat.

Then we can approach our actual son who we just hurt and clean it up.

We can say “Hey, when daddy raised his voice earlier, I see that that scared you.”  Or, “Johnny, I see (or saw) that you are so upset and scared. That makes sense because Daddy raised his voice and got very mad at you. I just want you to know that I love you and I don’t want to scare you. I want to learn how to respond differently when you do that behavior again. And, I want you to know that behavior is not okay in our household.” (more options here).

Shame or Tough Love?

Most parents think “hey, I don’t shame my kids.” But shame can be a sneaky, shadowy, elusive emotion. Shame can be as subtle as looking away disappointed, or overtly telling your kid they did it wrong.

Most of us normal parents will shame our kids from time to time. And, most of us dads will shame our sons. Sadly it’s part of our male conditioning. Plan on it. I like the 80/20 rule. If 80% of the time you are using no shame, your son will likely be a healthy adult with limited shame in him. Remember, we parents are not perfect, nor will we ever be (no need to shame yourself here J). However, let’s not use “hey I’m not perfect” as an excuse for continuing harmful behavior when we are capable as adults, of a healthier choice. The only way to do that is if we commit to working on ourselves and gaining new tools (see below).

Shaming your son works really well if you want him to feel insecure about being himself and to follow rules because he are afraid of you.  Shame is a good tool when you want your son to be disconnected from his body and his sexuality. Shame is a good tool to control and manipulate boys. They will listen and they will be very afraid to do anything outside the acceptable behaviors you enforce. They will learn that it’s okay to bully other kids.  Then, when they are adults, they will be terribly confused and fearful in intimate relationships. They will become grown men who turn in to hurt little boys in their most intimate partnerships. They will become dads who revert to shame as a tool when they get triggered.

By and large, shame perpetuates emotional (including neglect), verbal, and physical abuse and will train your son to not believe in himself. The fastest way out of shame is to deal with our inner child that is deeply hurt and re-parent him or her.

And, here’s where I contradict myself: On the one hand, no boy deserves to be humiliated or shamed. And (big risk here), on the other hand once in a blue moon, and strangely enough, shame (or a version of it called tough love), coming from a loving, open heart might be what’s required to cut through and help your son grow. It certainly did me when I was in middle school (for more context read Shame versus Tough Love).

A new way

There are two keys to shame-free parenting:

  1. Your inner work—When we learn to parent ourselves and do the inner work required to parent consciously, we have more options on the menu.  For example, when we make a mistake, we now have the ability to model cleaning it up. When we clean it up, our son understands that adults screw up, and can take responsibility for it, which builds trust again.
  2. Get some effective tools by taking parenting classes. Don’t know how to clean it up? No idea how to set limits without shaming your son? Take a parenting class, read books, join groups or on-line forums that support your value system.

This post was inspired by this post (read by only 100,000 people) “You just broke your child, congratulations.”

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Editor: Kate Bartolotta


About Jayson Gaddis

Jayson Gaddis, founder of The Relationship School® , and host of The Smart Couple Podcast , is on a mission to teach people the one class they didn’t get in school--”How to do intimate relationships.” He was emotionally constipated for years before relationship failure forced him to master relationships. In 2007 he stopped running away from intimacy, asked his wife to marry him and now they have two beautiful kids. When he doesn’t live and breathe this stuff with his family, he pretty much gets his ass handed to him. You can find him here: Jayson Gaddis or sign up for a free training here if you are dealing with an emotionally unavailable man like Jayson used to be. You can also become a fan on Facebook here: Jayson Gaddis Fan Page.


17 Responses to “Parenting Boys with Large Doses of Shame Works.”

  1. "Yea, but it worked" is a common excuse for all sorts of bad behavior. Good on you for choosing better ways to parent your kids than threats of implied violence. It's a tough job but the dividends pay off for generations.

  2. Keith says:

    Beautiful post, Jayson. Boy oh boy did I hear that hated phrase, "Knock it off — I'll give you something to cry about!" a lot when I was growing up (but from my mother, just to add in some complicated anima dynamics that would only take, oh, a decade or so, a divorce, and a few additional grenaded relationships to unpack), along with other pearls like "shame on you!" At least that last one was a literal shaming 🙂

    It's such valuable work you and guys like Michael Vladick are doing to simply EDUCATE parents. My parents did the very best they knew how (they were born in 1936 and 1939); given how THEY were raised (wow) they did a remarkable and outstanding job. But I'm deeply grateful I did not have children in my 20's; if I had, I would have without doubt perpetuated that dynamic for another generation. In fact, about a decade ago I caught myself yelling at my dog (since passed away), after she had gotten into the trash, "Shame on you!" a few times. I reflected what a dumb thing that was to say to an animal; a short time afterwards, I occurred to me it was a dumb thing to say to a child, too.

  3. Ben_Ralston says:

    Hi Jayson,
    yeah, very good post. This is so important. I just posted this to the main EJ Facebook page with the intro:
    "For me one of the most beautiful and remarkable things about being alive today is that the information we suddenly have available to us enables us to *change*, in ways that have not previously been possible. Articles like this are – literally – changing the future of society, humanity, and the Earth. Read it if you're a parent, and read it if you're not."
    With love from another therapist Dad doing his best not to screw up his son 🙂

  4. women_n_seamen says:

    Did you mean to say troll instead of hobbit? Hobbits are quiet, gentle creatures who very much like books and tea.

  5. Love this Jayson. It's so important—and for our girls too. Shaming is not okay.

  6. garret says:

    Hi J
    Tobacco tax money is pumping out a behavioral parenting curriculum out of Australia called Triple P Positive Parenting through First Five. I just became a practitioner, curious if you have heard of it and what you think of the curriculum. 1 minute time outs are used as a last resort for toddlers. Great article!

  7. @JayGaddis says:

    Thanks Duff! If i ever use excuses, I trust you'll call me on it.

  8. Lorin says:

    Posted to Elephant Family on Facebook and Twitter.

    Lorin Arnold
    Blogger at The VeganAsana
    Team leader for Elephant Food and Elephant Family

  9. jaysongaddis says:

    hmm. send me a link

  10. jaysongaddis says:

    yes, nice call. troll. right. makes sense.

  11. jaysongaddis says:

    thank you Ben. how old is your kid?

  12. jaysongaddis says:

    good catch Keith. very human of you. 🙂

  13. Ben_Ralston says:

    16 months. Adorable and totally mischievous. Really into biting at the moment. And putting things in the toilet. And climbing. And Tractors, or anything with an engine and wheels. Or just wheels. A total Boy.
    How old are yours, and how do you 'discipline' them at such a young age? With the biting I'm trying not to get angry, and instead just demonstrating that it *hurts* – seems to be working, but haven't been trying it for long.

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