Malidoma Some: How to Be a Man.

Via on Apr 28, 2008

Born in Burkina Faso, Malidoma Some is the foremost teacher of African spirituality in America. Here, he discusses race, masculinity and how indigenous traditions are relevant to modern society. With Waylon Lewis, editor of elephantjournal.com, at Briar Rose, an eco, Zen-owned B&B (just across the street from Naropa University).

For more: malidoma.com, eastcoastvillage.org

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47 Responses to “Malidoma Some: How to Be a Man.”

  1. Nicole says:

    This man sounds like he’s practicing a form of voodoo, which can work for good or evil. careful!

  2. Nicholas says:

    I have had the priviledge of experiencing several of Malidoma’s workshops. It is not “voodoo” as the following comment states but a direct effective means to encounter the vast interconnection that makes up this world. Malidoma is brilliant, brave man who has made a real personal sacrifices in order to bring this wisdom tradition her to the West. I bid the author of the following comment to be “careful” to listen closely to his message as it is true wisdom and a direct healing for those of us who have encountered his teaching. Malidoma is the real deal and great man. He should be encountered and considered and engaged with. He is not to be written off or feared.

  3. Pamella says:

    Malidoma, is filled with wisdom. The western world should take heed to this knowledge. It’s what they are in lack of. I really appreciate the words of his wisdom and I will now start asking my deceased great/grand parents about my daily choices. Wow! why didn’t I think of that.

  4. somé says:

    His message is life, love and peace.
    We need this message for good life.

  5. tom newman says:

    i think malidoma is an ‘earth elder’ and must be listened to carefully and without individual cultural baggage clouding the mind. i have just recommended him to be considered on ‘the elders’ web site of nelson mandela and company, as one of their elders, all who see this should do so also, it would be an important move to improve the world, move towards truth and spiritual enlightenment everyone, and away from mamon.

  6. Nanu says:

    Nicole, your ignorance is showing…lol!!

    ANY kind of religious or spiritual practice can be used for good or evil.

    Look into history…

    This man has a lot wisdom to share.

  7. Elaine says:

    Wake up, Nicole.

    If you were to visit Elmina (one of twenty slave dungeons along the coast of West Africa), you would find cavernous rooms where Malidoma’s ancestors were tortured and chained in horrific squalor before being forced through the “door of no return” to be loaded like cargo into the holds of slave ships; yet, just one level above sits a church where their CHRISTIAN KIDNAPPERS worshipped. Consider also the CHURCH PICNICS held at the sites of LYNCHINGS of African Americans as recently as the 20th century. And, of course, most SKINHEADS profess to be devout Christians. Now, is this good or evil? Careful, Nicole!

    Try googling church and slavery. You also can listen to NPR here: http://wunc.org/tsot/archive/sot0812b08.mp3/view

    Wake up, Nicole!

  8. Anna says:

    There is much wisdom Malidoma brings to the world. I have had the tremendous blessing of receiving a divination from Malidoma. It has given me much insight and peace.

    I have a five year old son that was born a quadreplegic. He is the most loving human being I’ve ever known. He came here to rescue me and he is doing his job well.

    The message that I keep hearing over and over in every respected author, teacher or leader is, we are not helpless and there are messages and guidance we get everyday and we must look beyond the specific circumstance to what is trying to be communicated. It is all there for us if we are open to listening. No one can tell us what to do, we have to take responsibility and think for ourselves with the help of spirit.

  9. dorn says:

    i have read 3 of malidoma`s books and also some of the interviews that he has had; and i know that this is a man with the knowledge of a demention that we in the western world do not give recognition to. we need to listen to what he is saying and seek to understand what we have forgotten.

  10. obafemi says:

    Voodoo is a good thing. How people use it and how people interpret it is as diverse as human perspectives.

    But voodoo, in and of itself, is a healing practice, which should no longer be associated with baggage from colonial/imperialist propaganda and fear.

    Vodun (the actual term from which voodoo is derived) literally means “stop and draw water” from the feet of the elders/wise”

    • The other Nicole says:

      Exactly! I'm tired of people giving voodoo a bad rap. Thanks for the extra bit of info about what the name vodun actually means. I didn't know that.

  11. AJE says:

    It is pleasing to see people passionate abouyt the need for the divine. This is the tension that M,alidoma speaks of that we should stay in. It is here in this back and fortyh where we will discover our similarities. and how they all start with spirit. ~Ashe'

  12. God's Conscious says:

    [Part 1 of 3]
    Maildoma Some, otherwise known as Patrick Some is a conduit for demonic forces dwelling in nature and in the universe. His revelations are not new but ancient practices carried out by indigenous peoples throughout the world before The Almighty God revealed himself to Abraham.

    Africans have always practiced dark arts of the occultic kind; call it witchcraft, divination, voodoo or ancestral worship and so forth. Africans, since the beginning mastered astral projection, sorcery, idolatry sacrifices and satanic worship – be it directly or indirectly. It is part of the psyche of the African culture to seek advancement through spiritual technologies; although somewhat misguided, nevertheless, it is real and a part of Man’s ultimate failure and condemnation.

    The ancient Egyptians were the first known people who developed demonic worship into an astrological-cosmologically intertwined science or system of believe for the populace.

    However, God warned the Israelites (True Christians):
    “9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [a] the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD, and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you. 13 You must be blameless before the LORD your God.” (From the Holy Bible: Deuteronomy 18:8-14)

    • God's Conscious says:

      [Page 2 of 3]

      YOU WROTE:
      “Moses studied with the Pharaohs in the Egyptian temples and then used that same sorcery to challenge Ramses. Judaism and Christianity are BOTH watered down offspring of the ancient African mystery schools. That's why you say "amen" at the end of a prayer, to invoke the power of Amen Ra, an ancient Egyptian deity.”

      MY RESPONSE:
      I take this particular statement very seriously because it is a misconception that many Afrocentric scholars have held dearly as a truism. I am not just addressing you, but many many others who have fallen for this false notion and doctrine.

      Moses did study in Egypt. This is true. This came about because Pharaoh’s daughter adopted him (we all know the story). Infact, he grew up as an Egyptian in the royal household even though he was originally Jewish. However, Moses fled from Egypt due to fear of his life for the manslaughter of an Egyptian overseer. He returned to Egypt some 40 years later. Not as Egyptian but as a Jew with the God ordained mission to deliver His people out of slavery from the Mighty hand of Pharaoh.

      Allow me to give further background knowledge regarding Egypt.

      Egypt in those days was a fearsome nation. At that time, it was the most powerful in all areas of civilization. It led the world in commerce, science and art. It advanced in warfare and intellectualism. The King of Egypt, a Pharaoh, was himself proclaimed a ‘god’ by his people. They believed he had supernatural powers and could command the heaven and the earth to obey him. So, when Moses came to him with the command from The Almighty God to let his people go, he refused and even blasphemed against God. Such was his Pride, Self-Worth and Arrogance that he refused to acknowledge that there was a God greater than him and his ‘gods’. Pharaoh decided to challenge Moses and his God. Needless to say, Pharaoh lost on all accounts and paid with his life. Egypt released the Jews and they migrated out of Egypt. For the full story, read the book of Exodus in the Holy Bible.

      The point I want to make is this, the so called wise men, sorcerers of Egypt who counselled Pharaoh and performed secret magic arts (witchcraft) conceded that Moses’ God was the Almighty God because of the types of miracles he performed was far too great to be attributed to man or spirits. Now, if ‘Amen-Ra’ was so great, he failed to deliver Pharaoh from the hand of the Almighty God. Certainly Moses did not invoke Amen-Ra, because by the time he returned to Egypt 40 years later he had already denounced everything Egyptian and was faithful to The All Mighty God.

      Now my brother, let me tell you this about Egypt. God said this: “But I have raised you up for this very purpose, that I might show you my power and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth” (Holy Bible: Exodus 9:16). God prepared and enabled Egypt to be great. The same God also brought it down using a weak people so that the entire world may know that He exists and thus believe in Him. Remember God’s statement of: “But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.” (Holy Bible: 1 Corinthians 1:27). God used a weak people to destroy a might people, thus showing all the people that He Is.

      Now, you may be wondering why God would raise Egypt in order to destroy it. Well, it is rather very simple. The Egyptians were from the beginning a people who practiced all the things The Almighty God hates:- idolatry, sorcery, divination (seeking knowledge of the future or the unknown by demonic means), witchcraft and demonic sacrifices to name a few. They boasted of their own strength and actively sort allegiance with dark spirits that dwell in the sea, sky and under the earth. They knew not, nor desired to submit to the One true God. Instead they wanted to be gods themselves. God reminds us that He humbles the prideful and raises up the humble.

      Perhaps at another time I will discuss the Ancient Egyptian Mystery school. As I said in my earlier blog, I practiced this very system for 10 years. I know it very well. I know of their spirits (deities) by name. However, I renounced all of this when I had an encountered with Jesus Christ that forever changed my life.

  13. God's Conscious says:

    [Part 2 of 3]
    We must be careful not to be seduced by the fantastical realm of demonic spirits. Spirits that dwell in nature are fallen angels who were cast out of Heaven along with Satan. They have no natural dwelling place so they have adopted all things in nature as their home;- trees, forests, deserts, sky, sea, vegetations, plants, rocks/stones, air/wind, animals and even humans and so on. They express themselves through those who are not immersed in the true word of God (scripture/bible/word of God); and who live according to the standards set by Man instead of the standards set by God. Malidoma Some is very misguided. It is unfortunate that he is propagating practices that kept Africans in spiritual bondage and as a consequence God’s wrath rained upon the heads of its descendents through slavery, famine, poverty, disease, failure, shame, disgrace and premature death.

  14. God's Conscious says:

    For those who insist on pursuing the perverse wickedness of idolatry, The Almighty God has this curse prepared for you, unless you flee from the sin of our forefathers:

    “49 The LORD will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. 51 They will devour the young of your livestock and the crops of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain, new wine or oil, nor any calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks until you are ruined. 52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the LORD your God is giving you.

    53 Because of the suffering that your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you. 54 Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children, 55 and he will not give to one of them any of the flesh of his children that he is eating. It will be all he has left because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of all your cities. 56 The most gentle and sensitive woman among you—so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot—will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter 57 the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For she intends to eat them secretly during the siege and in the distress that your enemy will inflict on you in your cities.

    58 If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name—the LORD your God- 59 the LORD will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses. 60 He will bring upon you all the diseases of Egypt that you dreaded, and they will cling to you. 61 The LORD will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law, until you are destroyed. 62 You who were as numerous as the stars in the sky will be left but few in number, because you did not obey the LORD your God. 63 Just as it pleased the LORD to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will please him to ruin and destroy you. You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess.

    64 Then the LORD will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the LORD will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, "If only it were evening!" and in the evening, "If only it were morning!"-because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The LORD will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.” (From the Holy Bible: Deuteronomy 28: 49-68)

    Finally, seek Jesus. Love God. Obey God. Repent from sinning and cease idolatry. All that Malidoma Some teaches is detestable in the eyes of the Living God. Everything he sees in spirit are the manifestation of demons in various forms and guises. It is a false reality. A deception. Magic designed to deceive, entice and blind us. Ultimately leading us away from the true God and into damnation. May the Peace of God be with you all and his wisdom revealed to you through the Holy Spirit in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen!

  15. God's Conscious says:

    The above is [Part 3 of 3]

  16. onile says:

    Gods conciousness is an adversary to the truth. This is an intentional attempt to decieve and is indeed a satan. God who created nature is against nature, God's dwelling place is in capitolism and modern technology? That which does not support the spirit or human life. This is ancient understanding, the first people of the earth wouldn't they have greater knowledge of these things. They are the elders of human life.Part of the source.

  17. God's Conscious says:

    Jesus said "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (From the Holy Bible: John 14:6) You must understand that you cannot reach the Father, God, The Supreme Creator, The Almighty One, except through acknowledging his Son Jesus Christ of Nazareth. This is the divine order of things. The likes of Malidoma are operating contrary to the Will of God. They do not recognise Jesus as The King of Man. So, if God, is not assisting them in their practices, then ponder for a moment who is. Is it not the principalities, the forces of darkness, spirits of the dark realms? I plead with God to open your eyes so that you may see the truth of what I am telling you so that it will not be too late for your salvation.

    Ask Malidoma to explain why the spirits his people invoke DO NOT like light. He himself stated in his book, Of Water and The Spirit, that these entities operate in the dark. Since when did darkness become light? Since when did darkness become good?

    Jesus is the Light that these spirits fear. They must flee at the presence of the Light. Those who have accepted Jesus and testify that he is the Son of God are children of the Light. Those who operate in the dark cannot stand the Children of the Light (the children of God, the children of Jesus).

    Jesus said "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." (From the Holy Bible: John 8:12) Look at these words very carefully. Light is synonymous with life. Darkness is synonymous with Death.

    Do not allow the fantasy of demon life entice you to your eternal death. Everything you need is already in Him (Jesus) who died in order that you should live. He overcame death by his resurrection so that you do not need to fear death. Instead, to do as he has commanded us to do. And that is to Love the One true Almighty God with all of our heart, mind, soul and spirit. And to love one another, including those who wrong us or persecute us. In so doing, we must reject all forms of pagan ideology and idolatry. The worship or practice of anything contrary to what God has said is Idolatry.

    • albailey says:

      God Conscious you have said a lot of nothing. Keep your thoughts until you experience and if you have not experienced your words really don't count. Your conversation is empty and void. Darkness is how your day,night,morning,rest,meditation,imagination. Without darkness you and everybody would go crazy. Were you dropped on the head after birth? You are so alone in your self promoting words. The light came from the darkness and there must be balance. Without darkness there is no light. Why don't you show up and ask Malidoma for your self ? I have a question are you like unto the priest who took Malidoma when he was a child? You speak of some God in the sky, you are miss lead and Jesus would not hang out with separatist.

  18. Mullah Nasruddin says:

    Has it occurred to you that people here are REALLY NOT INTERESTED in your arrogant dogmatism? Please go practice your preaching elsewhere. You are wasting your time and ours.

  19. Lah says:

    it is said that the smallest drop of understanding can cleanse a sea of mistrust, hate, and ignorance. malidoma is one of the drops of this very special kind of water. soon more of this water will be made available for all.

  20. quest says:

    is there a rule against spamming????? because that is what God's Conscious is doing. We have to understand that every civilization had their path to God. Why does he think that Christianity brought to AFrica by the Missionaries who created a mess over there are the only way???? Choose to respect each other and stick to what is best for you and in all things do NO HARM to other living things!!!!!!!!! this kinda verbage really irritates me.

  21. sacredwomanabenah says:

    wisdom & sacred arts . . .

  22. greg says:

    The man has a message that we can all benifit from. But when we make judgements, we only hear our own selves, and miss read the other. Listen to what he is saying without judging him, and you may get something from him.
    gk.

  23. Tom says:

    I have been connected to the same kind of spirituality that Malidoma is talking about for 22 years. I made sacrifices of animals to African spirits in Ghana West Africa. I have had shrines and seen Mmoatia or Kontomble as he calls them in his village. I am very familiar with this form of spirituality so I am very credible when I announce that after practicing this way of life for 22 years. I am proud that I walked into a delverance ministry Feb 3 2008 and was instantly transformed by Jesus Christ.

  24. Tom says:

    continued from above. There was more spiritual power in that moment and in my life since then i have ever experienced in the knowledge and lifestyle that I enjoyed in practicing AFrican spirituality. So his words are smooth and very intellectual indeed; however, we must understand that dangers that are wrought with the path that he is on and enticing others to follow. I like Malidoma and I met him in Tallahassee, Florida a while ago. He is genuine but his path that he is recommending is not good for any of us. Take time to observe and meditate on the true master named Christ. Watch him transform you. Remember, your anceestors died with issues that are still not dealt with. They are not the best source to go to. Jesus is LORD he will teach you 1000 Xs more than your ancestors can. This is my honest critique. I wish everyone the best in your search for truth. Ask God who you should follow. And learn for yourself. Dont take Christ off of the table.

    • Arona says:

      The wounds between indigenous ways and the ways of Christianity are deep and sad, and so much of what is propagated in Christianity has so very little to do with Christ Yeshua, what he taught 2000 years ago and what he teaches today in Spirit. Christ Yeshua though perhaps one of humanities mightiest ancestors lives not in Heaven above alone but in the Non Dual fabric of Life, deep in the heart of the earth with all of our ancestors. We can turn to and heal our ancestors, and Christ can be a massive support for this, but sadly not the Christ of religion.
      There is no division in his realm, that is man made and false, and requires deep repentance by ages of religious bigots, may we heal the wounds our ancestors in the Church afflicted the indigenous cultures all over the world with religous non sense that had nothing to do with the Love of the soul of Christ.
      We are the Christ, wake up.

  25. Ez-wa says:

    I wish Mr. Lewis had leapt more and let go of the "Buddhist" reference point. Something simple, basic, essential and straight-forward was being shared and I felt there was more there if Waslon had leapt. That said, overall I appreciate Waylon's slight edge of semi-sarcasm and humor that he tends to bring. It has playfulness. In this case I'm not sure it served him or us.

  26. Sue says:

    I think some of the accusations made by previous commentors are erroneous and fear based. This man's views are not exclusive of Christianity but rather inclusive in that he talks about recognizing certain aspects of our own spirituality, being open to others, recognizing boundries and issues, knowing that we have limits and there are things which cannot be easily explained. We should not dismiss something or someone just because it is different. He talks about being "real." He talks about being introspective.

    I have been to Ghana and met many Christians, devout, bible quoting, honest, good hearted people who still recognize the importance and influence of their ancestors in their daily lives. That does not seem like a bad thing to me. We should not be so fast to condemn that which we do not initially understand.

  27. albailey says:

    Tom you are right, the ancestors did leave not die. Life that God gives does not die. We transform by renewing our minds. His path is not good for you, speak for yourself and not project your views of fear.We are here now to deal with the issues of our ancestors, to work on your self is to heal your past, which allows the ancestors to heal they know what they did and did not do here. They are waiting don't be alarmed to get ah visit soon. How do you know the ancestors could be the way many of us connect with Jesus and or God and how do you know we haven't asked and God sent us to Malidoma and told us to watch SHEEPLE like you and others being lead by the blind. Speak for yourself and not hiding behind DOGMA.

  28. God's Conscious says:

    Please Read this Book. It is conclusive about the REAL truth for those that are genuinely interested.

    Heaven Is So Real! Expanded Edition by Choo Thomas (Charisma House)

    Thomas retells a stunning, personal story of how she saw the living Christ, visited Hell, and walked in Heaven. "On January 19, 1996, I woke up at 3:00 in the morning. My body was shaking … I turned my head on the pillow to look in the direction of the sound, and there, all aglow, was a figure dressed in white garments. IT WAS THE LORD …" Not once but ten times that month, the Lord Jesus appeared by her bedside and spoke to her. Share Choo's humble narrative, as each heavenly visit prepares her for the next; sense the growing wonder of Jesus presence; feel the weight of His tender words; journey through heaven, led by the Savior, learning His holy thoughts; hear the heart-tearing, supernatural words spoken from the throne; drink in the Spirit of God; and wonder at the beauty of this revelation of heaven.

    Click here to read chapter 1.
    http://www.strangbookgroup.com/index.php/sample-c

  29. metwo says:

    We see the world through our beliefs . .. if you believe in Jesus and everlasting hell then your vision will be such. This does not mean it is true or false, only that it suits you. Some people see the world through eyes of science, or through the Koran, or refer to the Upanishads to guide them. Beliefs guide us but they are no more absolute or permanent than the wind rustling the trees.

  30. candice says:

    Holy sideburns Waylon! Awesome!

  31. iwasicarus says:

    Thanku GC for as far as you have gone so far. i will give part examples from my own life: (in the interest of brevity) I am and was 5 years ago working to be a pentacostal christian, (and was engaged to someone who dabbled in Wica) and was well capable of delivering a what I believe to be an acurrate scripture quoting diatribe against Mormonism and their book yet none of that knowledge influences me remotely as much the (here abridged) testimony of a former Mormon women She said that as a devout unmarried practicetioner of her faith she and made all effort to be chaste, but that she was very troubled by lustfull feelings none the less. In time she recalled that the Word says God shall supply are our needs, so she decided to trust God and ask Him to supply her that need rather than she continue to burn thus. Soon afterward Jesus appeared by her bed in the evening and laid his hand apon her and she had peace. During the ongoing evenings he continued to appear, giving her peace, and gradually became more physically intimate with her until finally they were having sexual intercourse. She said she was horrified that she was doing this with her savior and wanted to stop, but the pleasure was unearthly intense and she could not stop herself until one night afterward she happened to look at her own face passing by a mirror. She was shocked by the look of pure evil looking back at her out of her own eyes! Very frightened now she ceased entertaining her "Savior" and began VERY desperately to pray to God about who she had been involved with. This woman says God audibly spoke into her mind saying " My dear, dear child, Of course that was'nt me. YOU prayed to the god of the Mormons. " She further says that afterward the demon never reappeared but she has an ongoing problem in her marriage because her relations with her poor husband in that area can't begin to compare with level of pleasure delivered by the demon and that is would literally be impossible for ANY flesh and blood man to do so, It was so much she still has to fight the temptation to ask for it back though she now knows the source to be utterly evil.

  32. iwasicarus says:

    My personal experience with Jesus: 25 years ago I was an atheist who merely felt there was something somehow more real than this everyday reality. I could very vaguely sense "something" and used to eat the magic mushrooms that grew in fields where I worked. Now I was sure there was and one day, fed up with my prior attempts to find it, I took some spiritual tapes with me, drove in my car to a secluded place and consumed a major portion of a shopping bag of dried mushrooms I had collected over time for this purpose, and turned on the tape player. after some silence smoke came out of the player and nothing else. Now I had no mental anchor and had to pass the hours with my own thoughts while the effect of the mushrooms became stronger and stronger. At one point I drove my car only to find myself unable to take my foot off the accelerator as sped down a gravel road past 70mph toward trees and a river where I expected to die in crash. finally i turned the wheel all the way right and made huge arcs in field till it passed. It got more intense till i knew nothing at all and feared i might in reality be doing any dangerous thing. I held on by crawling in the back of the station wagon, curling into a ball on my elbows and knees, and checking over and over for the burning sensation of them on the steel floor when i could momentarily pull myself back out of my "daydreams". Having begun in the morning by evening the experience finally ended and sober again contemplating the intricate clouds near the horizon, I rhetorically said to myself out load as i shook my head, "God why am I still alive." I repeat, I had come down, and was amazed at my own behavior. The next thing that happened was that my eyes absently happened to shift up and left directly into the low sun shining through those clouds. In the sun, filtered by the clouds it shone through was Jesus Christ looking at me. For perhaps almost 2 seconds I saw a compassion for me great beyond ANY description, then it was gone. Ever seen something so intense that you have to say no if a friend asks you if you all right? I once saw a brown Pinto like mine standing on edge but looking like a huge cornflake 8" tall and only a foot thick after having been run over by a semi. The blood of the passengers I thought made a solid sheet across one lane before splitting into rivelets across the next. Thinking about those people I was kinda not OK for 20 minutes afterward. But what I saw in those 2 seconds was so intense, I wasn't seriously wasn't "OK" for 2 days afterward. ( no i didn't pursue Christ till much later)
    My point is this is what I mean by being real (if not necessarily "cool"). If we include being real with each other instead of merely right or correct, speaking from a grounded even if sad heart rather than always an irritated head, perhaps there will be fewer defensive counter retorts being traded and more exchanges where what' said opens eyes and doors even when its not agreed with. sorry for takin so much space.

  33. Danku Edem says:

    i just love all the works of Malidoma some,please where can i have access to all his works.

  34. BIG says:

    ONLY GOD KNOWS WHAT HAPPEN EXACTLY IN THIS WORLD.AMAZING

  35. Guest says:

    Malidoma: Thank you for your work to bring us together! It continues to grow.
    Waylon Lewis: Thank you for interviewing Malidoma. Having this interview available for anyone in the world to watch for free is p r i c e l e s s.

    *: Clearly, Malidoma 'gets it' I am truly inspired after having read his book: Of Water and the Spirit; Ritual Magic, and Initiation in the Life an African Shaman and watched this interview.

  36. Grayce says:

    Sex and money. We must have a bed to lay in. It costs money. Hopefully a house that also has a place to cook food, because such activity is hungry business. Food and cooking utensils, etc. cost. The learned in spirituality must also eat, travel, continue study, etc. And in this world, all that is balanced with the exchange of money. There's not a single person here who doesn't mix sex and money. May we be wise to the ways of the world. To come to a town and give a talk on spirituality, where would the speaker/sharer sleep, eat, clean up and dress, etc.? Does this magically appear? Or perhaps God/the Almighty furnishes us, the listeners with the gift of making sure we are strong enough to not get wisdom with absolutely no effort, or more effort than walking to the hall to listen. And who pays for the hall? Sex and money = everything and money = spirituality and money.

  37. Ellis says:

    Your words are empty. You only reiterate a two thousand year old text WRITTEN BY MAN. The heart is what speaks the truth. When you spout off dogmatic quotes and biblical prophecies it only enhances your foolishness. How can Christians conquer the world, destroying, murdering, annihilating cultures in the name of God and love. If "Jesus" were to appear I believe people like Malidoma would be the first honored. The heart work is what is important in this world, and not dogmatic, outdated religious jargon.
    Christianity is not the only way to grace.

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