“We will show that…the answer to violence is even more democracy, even more humanity—but never naïveté.”

Via on Jul 23, 2011

‎”Tomorrow we will show the world that Norway’s democracy grows stronger when it is challenged … and that the answer to violence is even more democracy, even more humanity, but never naïveté.”

Update: Norway PM quotes young survivor in memorial speech: “If one man can show this much hate, think how much love we can show together” (translate.google.com)

“You should know that we’re crying with you. We feel for you… I am proud of living in a country that has managed to stand up on its feet in such a critical time… We are still horrified over what happened. But we will never give up our values.”

Our love heart support to Norway, this day.

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An appropriate quote:

President Clinton, Oklahoma City:

Let us let our own children know that we will stand against the forces of fear. When there is talk of hatred, let us stand up and talk against it. When there is talk of violence, let us stand up and talk against it. In the face of death, let us honor life.

As St. Paul admonished us, Let us “not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.”

The Prime Minister of Norway:

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“Today Norway was hit by two shocking and bloody and cowardly attacks.
We still do not know who attacked us; much is still uncertain.
But we know that many are dead and injured.
We are all shocked at the evil that has struck us so brutally and so suddenly
This night demands much of all of us.
And the days that follow will demand even more
We are prepared to face up to this.
Norway hangs together during critical times.
We mourn our dead, we suffer with the injured, and we comfort relatives.
This is about attacks on innocent civilians, on young people at summer camp.
An attack on all of us.
I have a message to the people who attacked us, and those behind them.
This is a message from all of Norway:
You will not destroy us.
You will not destroy our democracy nor our quest for a better world.
We are a small nation, but we are a proud nation.
No one shall bomb us into silence or shoot us into silence.
Nothing will frighten us out of being Norway.
This night we will comfort each other, talk with each other, and stand together.
Tomorrow we will show the world that Norway’s democracy grows stronger when it is challenged.
We shall find the guilty and hold them responsible.
The important thing tonight is to save lives, to care for the victims and their loved ones
I would like to state my recognition for the work of the police, the medics,
and all the other people who currently do such formidable work
to help others, healing injures and saving lives.
We must never cease to stand up for our values.
We have to show that our open society can pass this test, too,
And that the answer to violence is even more democracy,
even more humanity, but never naïveté.
That is what we owe to the victims and to the those they hold dear.”

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About Waylon Lewis

Waylon Lewis, founder of elephant magazine, now elephantjournal.com & host of Walk the Talk Show with Waylon Lewis, is a 1st generation American Buddhist “Dharma Brat." Voted #1 in U.S. on twitter for #green two years running, Changemaker & Eco Ambassador by Treehugger, Green Hero by Discovery’s Planet Green, Best (!) Shameless Self-Promoter at Westword's Web Awards, Prominent Buddhist by Shambhala Sun, & 100 Most Influential People in Health & Fitness 2011 by "Greatist", Waylon is a mediocre climber, lazy yogi, 365-day bicycle commuter & best friend to Redford (his rescue hound). His aim: to bring the good news re: "the mindful life" beyond the choir & to all those who didn't know they gave a care. elephantjournal.com | facebook.com/elephantjournal | twitter.com/elephantjournal | facebook.com/waylonhlewis | twitter.com/waylonlewis | Google+ For more: publisherelephantjournalcom

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15 Responses to ““We will show that…the answer to violence is even more democracy, even more humanity—but never naïveté.””

  1. Siw Aduvill says:

    Thank you.

  2. Siw Aduvill says:

    I want to share these intelligent reflections that sums up what most of us feel: http://www.oysteinrunde.no/#post18

  3. charlotte says:

    85 young people got killed on Utøya….. And the killer was one of our own countrymen. it`t unbelieveable, and very very sad. Thank you for your support! Peace and love

  4. elephantjournal says:

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    Cain MacWitish I like this, but unfortunately "hate" CAN and DOES often triumph over Love.(the values of) Love must be "muscularly" protected, so that hate doesn't just run over them, shoot them or blow them up.

    This is the basis for all Martial Arts.
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    elephantjournal.com Cain, reread the PM's quote: "the answer to violence is even more democracy, even more humanity, but never naïveté."
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    elephantjournal.com And I would say that what we're seeing is an outpouring of love…this terrorist has only provoked further love. The only way love can be defeated is in one's own heart, by hatred…seeking revenge…for all our nuclear and military strength, terrorists find it easy to strike—in Spain, UK, in the USA. "Muscular" protection is essential but often becomes, in itself, a form of hate, which defeats the values it seeks to protect.
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    Margunn Aguilar Our PM is the best. Lovely and loving. He reminds us to 'hug the midline' and also extend our love to oneanother. The norwegian people appreciate the support from all over the world. Namaste
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    Chris Heaney I hope we in America can learn from the ethos of the Norwegian People-please God can we learn it!
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    elephantjournal.com Check out the quotes I just added from various papers to the above link…inspiring. I do hope the world can learn from Norway's reaction, thus far. ~ W.
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    Chris Heaney Thanks I will!
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    Chris Heaney Folks- if there is any post in all the time I have been on facebook that has the power to change everything, it is in this video link. Thanks so much for posting it and please find a way to spread this idea. The way to Peace is to begin to live it ourselves. Elephant journal as been such a gem to me- thanks!

  5. elephantjournal says:

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    haron Vaught well said… I hurt for Norway, it is simply a big mistake to treat such kindness with violence. It's bad Karma…
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    James Hurley let love be your political calling!!!

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    Astri Viberg thank you….much appreciated ♥ ….and like one of the survivors of the massacre at Utøya said 'if one man can show so much hate, imagine how much love we all can show together'

  6. elephantjournal says:

    Comments related, via our post re Amy Winehouse's death, same day: http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/07/amy-wineho
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    Sarah Tindall Sad day indeed. In many ways………

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    Jasmine Beatty she was an excellent performer! it is sad ]:
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    Moff Mason Our love and best wishes for all the people who love and grieve for Amy Winehouse, too. Their grief is not any less painful than for those connected to the tragedy in Norway.
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    Kathie Fowler talented and a rare distinguished voice. It is not a shock, though. So many creative artists are self destructive.
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    Darlene Davies Sorry, Norway trumps Winehouse any day.
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    Susan Keeping Both tragedies to some people
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    Moff Mason ‎@Darlene Your statement speaks volumes about your compassion for others.
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    Lize Brittin I'm wondering if the original statement could have been stated in a kinder way. Implying (and yes, I realize it is an implication and can be taken in a few ways here) Amy is somehow less deserving of anyone's love and compassion isn't very nice. I'm sure Amy's friends and family are feeling pretty devastated at this time. Of course, this is not to take away from the terrible tragedy in Norway. I'm sure people get my point.
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    David Dickens Oh Amy. Sister, you forsook your gift. We need voices like yours. Rest in peace darling.
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    Susan Jenness Human life is so much better for all when we work together and feel compassion for one another, not competetion. That is my take on it anyway. I feel sad for all in Norway and Amy Winehouse and her loved ones too.
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    Steph Abbott Norway=devastating. Amy Winehouse=sad yet predictable. Grieve for all families…..
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    elephantjournal.com Lize, the original statement was by me. Any clumsiness is my own. People are people, and their loss is equal. That said, obviously, Norway was murder, of many, of innocents, of young. That said, there is no difference: it's all sad: a reminder of how precious life is and how unnecessary violence, to oneself or others, is. ~ Waylon Lewis

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    R Aimée Cruz-Báez We are all sons and daughters of God and no one is more deserving than others…we are spiritual beings having an earthly experience and sometimes the road to heaven gets very rocky…
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    Darlene Davies My statement speaks for those dead in Norway. I happen to be very compassionate. The newspapers and TV stations should be putting each and everyone of those in Norway on TV, telling their stories. Stories about what they have done with their lives, what they wanted out of life, what they were looking forward to in the future that they no longer have. Stories about their families and friends and how they are going to miss them and the hopes and dreams they had for them. Amy Winehouse should be but a mere blip on the TV screen. The focus right now should be on the dead in Norway. People put to much emphasis on the lives, loves and deaths of celebrities and sports figures.
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    Moff Mason A lesson of judgemental-ism and knowing what is right and proper for everyone. Launch a website so all the news media can consult you about what they should air. People from all around the globe can contact you to ask if their feelings or decisions are correct and get your direction on the proper focus they should have. We can all just wait before we do or feel anything until we've checked it out with you. All will be right, proper and appropriately focused for everyone forever more. What a relief! We will all be so happy and grateful for such divine guidance.
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    elephantjournal.com Moff, are you addressing Darlene?

    Darlene, I'm not sure that this is either / or—our compassion can and should encompass all suffering. That these two very different tragedies happened at the same time doesn't mean we have to compare them. They each are what they are: among other things, obviously, tragic and tragic and tragic. ~ W.
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    Moff Mason Yes.
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    R Aimée Cruz-Báez Very sad statements…and those who claim to be compassionate is really more than words
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    Lize Brittin I'm trying to figure out what the point is of, and also how to, rate tragedy, Darlene. I agree with those above who said that there is no difference when lives are lost. Tragedy is tragedy. There's no need to go beyond that. Amy is in the spotlight, because she was an international singer. This is the same media that focused on Paris Hilton when Pakistan was being devastated by two back to back natural disasters. It's not right, but it's what gets ratings. The fact that Amy is in the spotlight now doesn't take away from the sheer tragedy that occurred in Norway and the sorrow so many people feel for the people there.

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  8. elephantjournal says:

    Moff Mason It brings to mind an argument I witnessed between people about who's death should garner more attention, Mother Theresa or Princess Diana. I do not believe that we must RANK these things or choose one over the other. I think it's in very poor taste and highly insensitive, to say the least. Respect others or keep your mouth shut. Just because we can interject at the speed of light does not mean that we should. Self-discipline and mindfulness can temper an unruly tongue.
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    Bea James Sad. So sad. Why is it that deeply troubled celebs are made fun of until things like this happen? Oh the humanity of it all.
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    Keven Bridge inevitable, but still so sad.
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    joe illingworth moff – 90 young children murdered in cold blood vs. one self-destructive young person with a drug problem probably overdosing. HUGE difference. i am not surprised by amy winehouse's death in the least. this tragedy in norway is, as one person has put it, their oklahoma city bombing. i know we get all hippied out here on the ele, but try to keep some perspective.
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    Rick Gilbert We live in a world with billions of people and many more other beings. Suffering and tragedy takes place every day on a scale that we can't possibly get our minds around. For better or worse (probably the latter), it's relatively easy to focus on an artist we've heard and enjoyed on the radio, than it is on the larger tragedy of many innocent lives lost-whether it's Norway, or Iraq or Afghanistan, or Africa. I think we would all love to get to know the victims and the families of those touched by tragedy every day-it's just so massive and seemingly impossible to do that, however-so we zero in on Winehouse. It's not a compassion contest. At least compassion is being offered, even if it's considered misplaced. Many would tell us that, rather than it being a finite resource, the application of ANY compassion only sets one up to give it away more freely in the future-because compassion, like suffering, is limitless.
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    Moff Mason Joe, my perspective is clear. I don't "rank" miseries and tragedies. If I ever did, I'd keep it to myself.
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    Kathie Fowler Really? There is a dispute over whose lives are more valuable? Disgusted. No need to bash the death(s) of human beings. We are not to judge. And these remarks by Elephant Journal readers? Go read some yoga Sutras or meditate on positive, loving thoughts. Walk the Walk!
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    Mairead Colbath felt so sad when I heard the news today, we have enjoyed listening to her sound and music. My heart goes out to her husband, parents, family and friends tonight ♥ RIP Amy Winehouse ♥ Club 27 ♥ xoxo
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    Darlene Davies Thank you Joe. A voice of reason.
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    Nancy Herbert I cannot believe some of you would even go there… We need more love '&compassion In This world. Not more arguing and hateful judgmental words against other human beings that are suffering…clearly there is a coldness in this world that is spreading . And the intolerance iif eachother is abhorrent.

    judgements of others w inner demons. Come on people
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    elephantjournal.com Joe, for the second time now, we're not equating the two. Perhaps you're replying to other commenters. Thanks— W.
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    Debra Murphy The devastation of addiction is the deepest devastation of the heart and soul. It has claimed thousands of lives and those in active addiction are in the darkest place one could be. I have compassion for Amy ,and I wish she could have found some compassion for herself. Recovery is possible and it is brilliant.
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    Kathie Fowler Yes Nancy. I see so much anger and selfishness over the years.

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    Darlene Davies I apologize if I offended anyone.

  9. elephantjournal says:

    My original introduction to the Amy Winehouse post by Jolee, which some reacted/commented upon:

    "Tragedy, on an individual level. Our love and best wishes to the wider tragedy in Norway." ~ Waylon

  10. [...] The mood in Norway right now is not made of hate and revenge. It is stridently meditative. As Prime Minister Stoltenberg said, “We will show that…the answer to violence is even more democracy, even more humanity—but never… [...]

  11. [...] This is how a confident, strong, resilient, brave, loving, proud, unbeatable nation responds to terror. Image: Imgur. [...]

  12. rachida says:

    my condolences to Norway on this tragic event, it was a chock for us here in morocco, we lived a similar situation (again) only a few months ago in Marrakesh, and the atrocity was also performed by a Moroccan citizen, i hope of all my heart that you would overcome and heal from this, and that the memories of the victims would keep you going in achieving and maintaining your success that the villain devil envied you for, and we are so so sorry for your loss.
    rachida casablanca, morocco

  13. Dylan Barmmer Dylan says:

    A Poem for Norway…

    Idyllic bliss, all washed
    pure pristine, oh so very
    clean in timeless fjords
    where Peace also flowed
    trickled down like honey
    you became Prized for it, in fact

    Then a homegrown, spun
    monster of a man hatched
    a twisted wretched plan to
    "save" you, somehow doing
    so meant pointless slaughter
    of 80, 90, near 100 at a clip

    At least your Viking founders
    plundered others, now your
    own brother, son, he came
    undone and went mad with
    murder soaked your proud cold
    waters with warm blood, oh God

    Horrible horrors, sickest sickness
    but you can't let this break you
    make you give up, change your
    ways of Peace and Progress, yes
    the worst you will do to him is
    lock him away for 21 years, to fester

    His strain of Hatred blooms in
    every dark corner of our earth, all
    nurtured where neo-Nationalism
    crossbreeds with Insanity, it is
    watered with unprocessed Anger
    and pollinated with Poison Dreams

    It seems we never know just where
    the wind will carry it next, or what
    shape or face or life it will take
    all we can do is make a daily
    practice to practice Love and
    Compassion, please keep Peace

    And pray for these sick Souls, yes

    We are with you here in Spirit, and

    Our arms don't hurt, they heal

    *2011 Word Is Born

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