Bible forbids Homosexuality?

Via on Sep 22, 2008

This is one way to defeat bigotry: knowledge, harnessed to eloquence, without aggression.

Martin Sheen, President in the 2000-2007 George ‘W’ alternate universe, takes on a “Doctor” that closely resembles hard-right radio personal Dr. Laura.

“I don’t call homosexuality an abomination—the Bible does,” the Dr. Lauraish lady says, as does the real deal in real life.

Wanna hear President Bartlett’s Bible-based comeback? Warning: you might have to sell your daughter, forbid football, stone farmers and burn yo’momma.

VIDEO:

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Bonus:

The “Bible does not define a marriage to be between a man and a woman.”

bible marriage options!

 

 

About Waylon Lewis

Waylon Lewis, founder of elephant magazine, now elephantjournal.com & host of Walk the Talk Show with Waylon Lewis, is a 1st generation American Buddhist “Dharma Brat." Voted #1 in U.S. on twitter for #green two years running, Changemaker & Eco Ambassador by Treehugger, Green Hero by Discovery’s Planet Green, Best (!) Shameless Self-Promoter at Westword's Web Awards, Prominent Buddhist by Shambhala Sun, & 100 Most Influential People in Health & Fitness 2011 by "Greatist", Waylon is a mediocre climber, lazy yogi, 365-day bicycle commuter & best friend to Redford (his rescue hound). His aim: to bring the good news re: "the mindful life" beyond the choir & to all those who didn't know they gave a care. elephantjournal.com | facebook.com/elephantjournal | twitter.com/elephantjournal | facebook.com/waylonhlewis | twitter.com/waylonlewis | Google+ For more: publisherelephantjournalcom

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39 Responses to “Bible forbids Homosexuality?”

  1. elephant journal admin says:

    Sarah Lowe at 9:18pm

    i love the west wing and all their teaching moments..

    • Ranch Mubay says:

      Unfortunately TV writers depend on the ignorance of their listeners. This was not written as the word of God, it was written as the human law of the land. The quote here is from the Old Testament and not followed by Christians…or Jews for that matter. Christians and Jews per the bible follow the 10 commandments and the golden rule. I think a Bible-basher could be told anything via a TV show like The West Wing and believe it. And what's even worse is you posted your name. Next time do a little research before believing every lie you read.

      • Abby says:

        The ten commandments and the golden rule? Ok. So why are Christians anti-gay? No where in the ten commandments does it say “thou shalt not marry the same sex.” They get their teachings from the bible. It is ridiculous to only follow it partially. And yet so much in the bible is preposterous. And you cannot do everything the bible says to do.

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  5. clark says:

    I had no idea they were at Matthews funeral, that makes me sad.

  6. Jay Winston Jay Winston says:

    There’s homophobia, as well as rampant sexism in every religious/spiritual tradition (and not just in the past, either, as the most popular yoga guru in India is one of the country’s leading opponents of decriminalizing homosexuality) (yes, homosexuality is illegal in magical mystical India). If you’re going to idealize ancient traditions and hold up mythical pasts as purer than the modern world, you’re either gonna end up a crazed fanatic like Phelps or wrestling with a who lotta contradictions (like the gay and lesbian yogis I encounter who seem to think traditional Indian village life is an ideal we should all aspire to).

    • Peter Cox says:

      I love when people defend their twisted religious beliefs by pointing out other's faults. Let's let love rule over ALL.

  7. steph davis says:

    love is the beauty. please let us learn

  8. Jasmine says:

    But even if you really thought that the Bible deemed homosexuality as an abomination, that misinformed belief should have nothing to do with the banning of gay marriage. That is a non religious civil rights issue, and it’s unconstitutional not to allow EVERYONE to marry.

    End of sermon. :P

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    • elephantjournal says:

      There's a lot of traditional Dharma teachings on sex, etc…99.9% of modern Dharma teachers are tolerant and accepting of any sort of respectful sexual activity. As the Dalai Lama said, if science contradicts Dharma, then go with science.

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  14. streetwise says:

    Ok, I'm ALL for gay & lesbian rights and full equality. But that is NOT what Matthew 8:5-13 is even remotely talking about. A centurion comes to find Jesus because is SERVANT is sick and in pain. Jesus heals the servant from afar due to the centurions FAITH in Jesus. No mention of even a relationship in any sort! What in God's green earth were those people thinking? It does not help their cause to post what really are lies. There are plenty of other truthful quotes in the bible about not judging here on earth, but that it is left to God himself. Don't post lies. It doesn't help your case.

  15. Mat Hill says:

    You seem to be using a modern English word: “servant”…

    Try this analysis of the original:
    http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/gay_couple.html

    You may not agree with it, but it’s a fairly convincing linguistic point. The Word of your God is not English.

  16. jackie says:

    Pres. Bartlett… still my favorite.

  17. Roger Wolsey rogerwolsey says:

    The reason that that character on that episode was "Dr. Lauraish" is because the show did an homage to an actual letter that was sent to Dr. Laura. http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.a

    It should be said that an informed and eloquent fundamentalist could have a retort (that Paul wrote that gentile believers are not bound by the Mosaic Law which was superseded in Acts 15:20, 15:29 and 21:25 where the Apostles derived four rules to replace the Mosaic Law which still included "sexual immorality" — which they of course, assert includes homosexuality. They'd also retort saying that the apostle Paul condemns homosexuality for Christians in Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:8–11.

    That said, their case, while valid, isn't sound as there is good biblical scholarship which provides compelling evidence that a) homosexuality isn't specifically prohibited (esp. the form in a committed, monogamous relationship between consenting adults), b) Paul didn't write 1st Timothy. Here are two great pieces for folks to know about: http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?ti… and http://www.believeoutloud.com/boltoday/20111230/c

  18. Brent B. says:

    Some people get irritated with me for saying this repeatedly, but I feel like it's important to remember that the Bible was written by people who believed the world was flat! In other words, it is based on ignorance. The fact that people still believe the Bible is the "literal truth" scares the hell out of me. With that being said, I wish everyone ture inner peace and joy.

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  20. Anasthasia says:

    All I know is from my life experience, the vast majority of religious or Christian people I have known throughout my life seem rigid, judgmental, intolerant. They don't seem like anyone Jesus would hang with to me.

  21. Darian says:

    I was hoping for a better argument from "the President." In fact the Bible does NOT decree the death penalty for wearing linen and wool, or for sowing mixed seeds, so false attribution right there- very dramatic, very untrue.

    • Jakk says:

      Leviticus 19:19 'You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.'

      Nor Wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together…..yes, yes it does.

  22. Aaliyah says:

    Anasthasia, Christianity is not supposed to be about 'religiousness' or condemnation/judgment. its supposed to be about Unconditional Love!!!
    Why is homosexuality so fiercely protected? Why are people so upset because of the beliefs of others?
    First off, those laws were written before Jesus' sacrifice. thus after Jesus' resurrection, the Jews and Gentiles alike were freed from the legalism of the Law accepting Grace from God (living by the spirit instead of the letter of the law).
    So, Waylon, there are non-bible believers who marry children, rape babies, impregnate 5 year olds, hang black people from trees go on national television insulting minorities to this day, and there are people starving at this very hour but you are picking on what others believe because homosexuality is not desirable and deemed an abomination to them. did you also find the two passages in the bible where homosexuals were violent, threatening to invade the homes of straight me in order to rape them! Where do you think the word sodomy comes from (hint: Sodom and Gomorrah) until you read the whole dossier (the bible) you dont have the intellectual right to publish half facts

    • Josh says:

      You do realize that in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah Lot's daughters get him extremely drunk and have sex with him… Genesis Chapter 19, verse 35: "So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up." Is that also okay?

  23. Aaliyah says:

    Why is the Bible picked on by Homosexuals? of the millions of books in the world surely the bible isnt the only book where homosexuality is deemed unfavorable!!
    I have a question. Should all white males commit suicide? because the link below states you all should http://diversitychronicle.wordpress.com/2013/11/1

  24. James says:

    Typical Liberal Democrats. Trying to talk about something they know nothing about.

    • Jakk says:

      Typical Conservative Republican Fundy, always trying to act like their opinions and answer are the fact and the TRUE american way, when in fact, it's neither.

  25. abbyrosmarin says:

    Brilliant! Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. I'm exhausted by people claiming how horrible homosexuality is, pointing to The Bible as why. How quick we are to quote Leviticus, and yet we seem to ignore the biggest and the second most important message in the New Testament: "Love your man, because God loves you." How quick we are to ignore, "Do not fret about the speck in your brother's eye while ignoring the plank in your own." How quick we are to ignore that time Jesus stepped in on another taboo situation and go, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

    The *only* time Jesus ever flipped out and let people have it was when he saw people trying to make money from religion. (Lesson learned there: when people say "WWJD?" remember that flipping tables and calling people on their bullshit is a viable response.)

  26. cwg3 says:

    Everyone in the USA is not christian or believes in the words of the bible. The USA being a secular nation, this whole "because the bible says it's so" is incredibly wrong and unconstitutional. The freedom to practice ANY religion in this country does not mean one religion has the right to impose their beliefs on the rest of the populace. Why should people who have no belief in that religion or book be subjected to it's "words"? I don't live by it or hold my actions accountable to it. And woe be it to anyone who attempts to impose that primitive nonsense on me.

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