Mice Problem? The ‘Buddhist Solution.’

Via on Dec 4, 2008

The below query was sent to the Shambhala Buddhist community recently.

If you have experience removing mice from your building in a sane and compassionate way, please send your thoughts.
~ Thank you, Noah

Replies:

Hi Noah,
If you can find where these little beings are entering your dwelling, you can block the entry with a spray foam product: Great Stuff: Insulating Foam Sealant. You’ll need to reinforce the foam with some steel wool, however—otherwise they can chew their way back in.
~ Cheers, Mike

Dear Noah, et al,
Here at the Halifax Shambhala Centre, and also in my flat, we use the high-pitched frequency sound producers which plug into electrical outlets in all rooms. They are sold at hardware stores.
It takes about a month for them to move elsewhere, but the mice seem to hate it so much they do leave – and new ones just pass through very briefly.
~ Cheers, David

I’ve used cheap, simple Have a Heart-style traps I found on http://www.ebay.com by searching ‘mouse trap’…I put a little peanut butter inside, then let the mice go a few blocks away in a park. I haven’t had mice now for six months, and I used to have a ton of them, eating stuff on counters and pooping everywhere. And their poop is supposed to be awful, some sort of disease is related to it.

Would love to hear from others on what they’ve done, so I can share with our readers who want to be compassionate when it comes to this common problem.
~Yours, Way

Everyone,
Until we plugged in our high frequency sound repeller thing, we used the Have-a-Heart traps successfully.
However here in the Haight Ashbury the mice preferred organic crumbly feta over organic crunchy peanut butter (your mice may vary).
~ Sean

I have used the “sound ” device also, but find a product called Shake Away which you get online. This is an organic repellent of bobcat and fox urine. No odor to you. You place it it the holes they come in , under condition of snow and rain and best sprinkled around the perimeter of the building. Works well and is not harmful to any one. I use the number on line to order direct which saves money for me but may be a moot point for you as you will have it shipped to Canada. Perhaps, in Canada there is a product made there. Humane collection of the urine is assured. Make sure all food products or any other attractive mice materials are not available, ie good housekeeping practices.

The shake away is not harmful to us or pets and I have read the sound does not harm pets or animals. I have one in my chicken coop with no effect on birds .
~ Cheers, Merle

Question for David (answer above in Merle’s reply):

Do these affect our pets?
~ Steve Quiney, Kamloops

Concluding advice:

I find marching around with a flute gets them to follow me and then I can lead them out the door.
~ Yours, Chris

About Waylon Lewis

Waylon Lewis, founder of elephant magazine, now elephantjournal.com & host of Walk the Talk Show with Waylon Lewis, is a 1st generation American Buddhist “Dharma Brat." Voted #1 in U.S. on twitter for #green two years running, Changemaker & Eco Ambassador by Treehugger, Green Hero by Discovery’s Planet Green, Best (!) Shameless Self-Promoter at Westword's Web Awards, Prominent Buddhist by Shambhala Sun, & 100 Most Influential People in Health & Fitness 2011 by "Greatist", Waylon is a mediocre climber, lazy yogi, 365-day bicycle commuter & best friend to Redford (his rescue hound). His aim: to bring the good news re: "the mindful life" beyond the choir & to all those who didn't know they gave a care. elephantjournal.com | facebook.com/elephantjournal | twitter.com/elephantjournal | facebook.com/waylonhlewis | twitter.com/waylonlewis | Google+ For more: publisherelephantjournalcom

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10 Responses to “Mice Problem? The ‘Buddhist Solution.’”

  1. admin says:

    I found that one of the best movies I’ve ever seen addresses this issue. Do not miss “Never Cry Wolf.” It is well worth going out of your way to find — libraries and good video rental places. The movie is very funny, sad and profound. As well as timely!

    Best cheer,
    Judith

  2. greg wood says:

    I usually meditate quietly in a dark room facing the bare-floored hallway to my kitchen. When a mouse starts down the hall, it is quite easy to hear him scuttling along. Then, I simpley blow his ass away with a .357.

  3. F Tepper says:

    I grew up in a Los Angeles canyon, where one peanut butter-baited Have a Heart trap took care off all intruding rodents, and allowed us to relocate them to various sprawling Beverly Hills estates.

    A local (to Cincinnati) industrial and web designer, Chris Glass, designed an exquisitely simple way to catch in-house mice, using a toilet paper roll, a daub of some bait, and a waste basket; enjoy his diagram here:

    http://journal.chrisglass.com/2005/09/how_to_catc

  4. Ecospire says:

    Mint is a natural mice repellent and it smells good. Put mint springs all over the house and/or sprinkle dried or fresh mint anywhere you've seen mice.

  5. liberated says:

    Indeed. Peppermint essential oil on a cotton ball (2-3 drops) works wonders. Reapply every 2-3 days – very, very effective and smells great :)

  6. Rich says:

    I used a plastic mouse trap and it did the job.

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  8. Rosala says:

    Mice in the house are more than a rodent problem. Mice are a main host for Lyme disease and the tick population increases due to mice nests. Also, some mice carry Hanta virus and it is spread to humans who breathe the urine and feces. I've lived in the wooded mountains where wild mice and rats are abundant and nothing keeps them out if they wish to come in (maybe a solid concrete home would). Trapped mice released wasn't adequate as the mouse source was so prolific and it would have required dozens of traps emptied daily (miles away to prevent their return, which isn't very kind, either).

    I dithered about how to manage this problem for quite awhile. I finally decided that my family's health was my highest concern and wanted to be as harmless as possible. First, I sent a message telepathically to the mice telling them it was time to leave or die. Then, I trapped with an instant death trap. I figured that killing a few was better than allowing them to nest and breed, thus requiring me to kill even more.

    Lama Surya Das has a great story about establishing a Buddhist monastery in the eastern US that was heavily infested with cockroaches. They nuked 'em.

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